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I have mixed feelings about this, can anyone comment? (beehaw.org)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by liv@beehaw.org to c/disability@beehaw.org

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Description: a toilet door with a multigender symbol and a disabled symbol. Text below the symbols reads "Inclusive| Ira tāngata katoa".

For context, this is the disabled toilet in the main art gallery in my country's biggest city. There are the standard male toilet and female toilet right there as well.

Edit: sorry, image upload isn't working for me. Basically the one disabled toilet has been turned into an inclusive gender and disability toilet. I love it that there is a gender inclusive bathroom but I don't love it that they siloed it into the disability accessible toilet instead of renovating a new one or changing one of the 4 standard ones instead or as well.

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait. Are there not also handicapped stalls in each the women's and men's bathrooms?

I see that configuration all the time here. Men's, Women's, each with handi-capped stalls, plus one or two Disabled/Family/Gender Neutral stand-alone restrooms.

[–] liv@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

No, there are not handicapped stalls in the other bathrooms. In this particular art gallery/museum the womens' and mens' are very difficult even for some disabled people who can walk, because each is fitted with two fire doors (heavy doors that self close) - one to get into the sink area and another to access the stalls area.

If it was like @Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com was saying, I might feel differently but this is in a new part of the building and they are only a few years old. There's also an enormous supply closet next to them. It really shouldn't have to be like this.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

Agreed. My comment was shock and dismay, and a little hopeful disbelief.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they've got no excuse then. It sounds like they just don't give a shit about disabled people or anyone who's not cis.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

It depends on the building. I'm in the UK, and a lot of our buildings are old, and have been updated over the years to add facilities. For example, if the toilets were installed before disabled toilets were a thing, fitting them in with the regular toilets would need a complete renovation. Adding a separate room still needs work, but maybe not as much.