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China wants to rid itself of Western tech by 2027 -- outlines domestic alternatives in 'Document 79' (www.tomshardware.com)

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The WSJ reports that China is on an extensive push to drive out Western tech companies from the country and replace them with domestic alternatives. China reportedly started its domestic expansion in 2022 with a highly secretive "Document 79," an initiative focused on deleting Western tech companies from the country. Since then, China's new plan has been in full effect — domestic alternatives have replaced most Western software providers.

When initiated two years ago, Document 79 was a super sensitive document that only high-ranking officials were purportedly shown. Security was so paramount that copies of the document were not allowed to be made. The initiative set out by Document 79 is to replace foreign software in China's IT systems by 2027, with state-owned firms required to provide quarterly updates on their progress in replacing foreign software with domestic alternatives.

Two years later, the fruits of Document 79 are now apparent. Microsoft, HP Enterprise, and Cisco's market share in China has fallen drastically in the past several years. In 2018, HP Enterprise had a 14.1% market share in China, but in 2023, that has fallen to just 4%. Cisco's market share has halved in the past five years down to just 8%. Microsoft's Chinese sales today account for just 1.5% of the company's overall sales.

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[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's also very good news to america's middle class, but bad news to america's investor class. And overall bad for america's economic dominance relative to other nations.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Doubt. You can have biz systems compatible with Western and allied economies, or systems compatible with China and its vassal states, russia & NK. Choose one.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can have biz systems compatible with Western and allied economies

Did you remember the controversy over ~~ASME~~ ASML from the Netherlands not wanting to give in to US pressure to stop selling China their machines? Or Germany not wanting to support allied efforts to sanction Russia, because it would be a massive loss to their economy?

China and its vassal states, russia & NK.

Lots of african nations will disagree with you, they're quite happy to lend their support to Africa and Russia, as they benefit from both.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ASML

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you, i will edit my comment.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funny how it's "allied economies" for the US and "vassal states" for China.

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

It's like it's "expats" when UK citizens enter your country and "immigrants" if anyone else does

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't really care, nor do many. The hollowed out middle class would just like it if we built shit here, even if the factories were automated. Shit products coming from a shit country, at the behest of our shit business leaders and shit politicians. America's hegemony has been over for quite some time. We're just a paper tiger anymore with a leftover military from a bygone era. We have more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined, and no will to do anything constructive with the defense budget.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

We’re just a paper tiger anymore with a leftover military from a bygone era.

Not entirely true. America is still the most powerful nation-state globally. Although I do think that the era of aircraft carrier fleets is probably obsolete just like the era of battleships was made obsolete right before WW2.