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So I'm trying to play around with Fedora in a VM with VMWare Workstation Player (v17.5.1) but I'm running into a problem I don't know how to solve. I use the Fedora 39 1.5 ISO file which is the most current version that's available for download and after installing it in the VM everything works fine. I setup the install and I can use it, still working after rebooting it. But as soon as I do sudo dnf update or update everything via the Software Center the screen of the VM goes black and I can't use the VM anymore. No matter if I reboot it or not. When I power off the VM I can see the Fedora loading icon for a short period but that's it.

This also happened with NixOS but not with Fedora Server. I guess it must have something to do with the DE as both distros were installed with Gnome but I don't know how to solve it. I already tried reinstalling VMWare to no avail. I will try installing a distro with KDE to maybe rule out one cause.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here? I'm running VMWare on Windows 11.

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[–] LinusWorks4Mo@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

VMware went to the shitter, try with virtualbox

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The free options haven't turned to shit yet, but I'm absolutely expecting it to happen or to become non-free. I switched all my Windows VMs to KVM/virt-manager last week for this reason.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not the graphics. 🥹

That said VMware Player has a defect that sometimes causes memory drfragger on Linux to go nuts slowing the VMs down a lot.

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can pass through a GPU using KVM. Probably even a crypto mining card like the NVIDIA P106L for $30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY4s35uULg4

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

GPU passthrough is awesome where needed and practical but it's not an option for many setups and often it's not needed. Basic graphics acceleration is useful to get the user interface of Windows to behave nicely. To have using MS Excel not feel like you haven't installed your graphics driver. With Windows on KVM the missing bit is just the Windows drivers for virtio graphics. On Linux, the drivers are already there and Linux on KVM has basic graphics acceleration. That's all I wish for. 🥹 AFAIK there's an active PR for the Windows virtio graphics driver but it's not done yet.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Long story short VMware was purchased by Broadcom and have said they only care about the top 600 customers and the rest can do their own thing.

Since the acquisition Broadcom has increased prices by at least 2x, increased the minimum purchase number to be a partner, discontinued the free ESXi hypervisor, and are looking for someone to purchase the consumer product line like Workstation.

Your other options are Virtual Box by Oracle or head down the Xen path.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your other options are Virtual Box by Oracle or head down the Xen path.

Or, since OP is on Linux, a native KVM option like virt-manager or boxes.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How did you come to the conclusion that I'm on Linux? I never said that.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

My mistake. I read your post as you using VMWare Workstation on Fedora, not the other way around.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What version of Win 11 are you on? If you have the non home version you should look at enabling HyperV and use that for virtualization.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last I checked HyperV was pretty bad with 3d acceleration.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Likely because VMs are CPU bound. Of you want 3d acceleration you would have to pass a GPU through to the VM.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Broadcom has acquired it