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    [–] person@lemm.ee 154 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    People are still running Win7 without pause. Don't kid yourself!

    [–] far_university1990@feddit.de 94 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    „No update? So no more forced restart? Neat“

    [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    No more forced junk and changes I have to undo? My computer can stay the exact way I like it for a long period of time without Microsoft fucking it up? Sounds like a dream.

    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    "

    Hi.

    Due to the embedded insecurity of our system we are forced to upgrade all of Earth's computers as remediation. While you sit tight for updates, all computers will run at half speed. Once the new chipsets are available, you may purchase them on a subscription basis.

    Your desktop is almost ready...

    Just finishing up...

    "

    Anyone else remember Meltdown and Spectre 2018?

    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    This is a meme about enterprise equipment lifecycles.

    Huge corporate entities with machine inventory counts in the hundreds of thousands aren’t going to give a shit about trying to upcycle old hardware - they just want it to not be their problem anymore.

    [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I predict there will be a few companies that pop up to refurbish the hardware and sell it as a thin client solution. Places like call centers live on refurb equipment and are moving to a vdi infrastructure.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    W11 and anything after it simply does not support any intel cpu before 10th gen, or (with a handful of exceptions) any AMD cpu before the 3000 series.

    Edit: serious question: are W12 thin clients allowed to not have a TPM module? Or does that not actually matter for a thin client? I had assumed all machines involved had to have that capability, be it host or client.

    E2: clearly I need to learn more about thin clients and related infra

    [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    A thin client is basically like a smart TV.

    It might have some basic apps on it, but it's main purpose is to remotely connect to either a storefront or desktop environment that's being provided by some sort of VDI infrastructure. The OS can easily be a stripped down Linux image.

    This is beneficial for businesses because you only have to upgrade your servers instead of hundreds or thousands of desktops.

    It's also beneficial from a security standpoint because you can deliver only what's needed for the job.

    Source: I built and maintained a Citrix VDI environment for a multinational company. We mostly used Zero clients, which were basically Pis that could log into Citrix, but we had some departments that had to use thin clients for various reasons.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago

    🤔 I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you don't know what a thin client is and that there are rumors windows 12 will be a cloud product?

    If you knew that already though, then I'm puzzled by your comment.

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    [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My dad's friend was still running a 486 until last year. It did his spreadsheet.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] z00s@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    They don't make nostalgia like they used to.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

    Its subscription based now

    [–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

    generally computers won't stop doing things they were already capable of doing. tons of machines and businesses may rely on older hardware and software to complete specific tasks.

    but yeah, a 486 is pretty past its prime, and the task could have been accomplished on something far more modern.

    [–] z00s@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Windows 7 is the only good version since XP, not even joking.

    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

    I agree with you bit 10 was still usable. When 11 hit and I saw the future, I abandoned dual boot.

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I know a few orgs that still use XP.

    Hospitals, for example. Banks and the IRS still emulate IBM mainframes running COBOL.

    [–] Ooops@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    But those aren't affected usually. For them it's about stability because their certification processes are a lot of work and they won't risk any interruptions unless absolutely necessary. So they actually pay a lot of money for support beyond the normal EOL.

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

    the organizations I know personally, don't have those kinds of resources. They use XP because they rely on software that hasnt been ported to the new enviroments since forever, and it doesn't work on the new versions of windows. (or works poorly). plenty of places have old propriety licenses that they've never upgraded to new versions of software because it still works for their needs.

    CNC machining, doctor's offices. Tax lawyers. bakery shops running acocunting software. farmers. You'll find it in lots of industries.

    [–] XEAL@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

    Not much since Steam dropped support >.<

    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    Yeah Win7 is still good in comparison to win 11

    Steam discontinued Win 7 and they told everyone linux would be next, but then why? Linux is up to date

    edit: they* i mean Windows 7 users with it, sorry for the confusion!

    [–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    they told everyone linux would be next

    what?

    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

    Yeah windows 7 "elitist", i saw some steam discussions about it. But it was just hot air, that they just bloated up.

    [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Win7 might have been a good OS, but it no longer is unless it never touches the internet.

    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, i know just because of the security vulnerabilities, but it was for a long time better OS than windows 10 or 11, and because of that i switched to linux,

    [–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

    I'm sure some releases have become unsupported. The nature of Linux distros makes it a bit harder to define exactly which ones, even harder is you consider flatpak and snaps.

    I would be surprised if any of the big ones released at the time Windows 7 was released is not supported. If course there's no gatekeeping on the upgrades that I'm aware of (in general at least)