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Hello everyone! Are there any benefits of hosting your own XMPP server, considering I always use end-to-end encryption in all of my chats?

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[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is the main improvement messengers like Session and SimpleX Chat try to solve. As long as Signal requires a phone number (a highly identifying piece of information), there will always be metadata.

[–] poVoq 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using a small trusted XMPP server is IMHO the only real solution as it approaches the problem not as a technical issue but a social one. Any technical "solution" (like those you mentioned) will be at best improve the situation for a few people that really understand what is happening on the protocol level and leave everyone else with an even worse footgun situation than before. There are so many examples of this that I lost track of counting then :(

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I totally agree with your reasoning, XMPP is a better solution than Signal and Session imo. Having more control over your metadata is definitely valuable, however, I think SimpleX Chat could be a really good alternative to XMPP. The concept is really solid, a decentralized system of unidirectional message queues.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree with you. Been keeping an eye out for something more streamlined to bring the whatsapp crowd over. XMPP ain't it due to different servers with different features being a thing. So I only have a few contacts there. But as soon as SimpleX has a desktop client I'm moving over. Not because XMPP is bad, but because it's not able to pull less privacy driven peope over.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I agree, once SimpleX implements a desktop client, read receipts, and account sync, it will be a great solution for the masses. The mobile apps are incredibly good for how young the project is, so I have high hopes for the desktop client.