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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree with a lot of this, especially ranked choice voting. Don't agree with abolishing the electoral college though. Rural voters and urban voters are generally quite different, if you get rid of the electoral college the rural voters will be completely ignored by every politician simply because there are fewer of them and they are spread out more. I don't think that means their priorities should be invalidated.

That said, I would add one thing. Abolish primary votes. Political parties can nominate as many or as few people as they wish, anybody with enough signatures can get their name on the final ballot. The current primary system basically disenfranchises voters in any state that isn't in the first 10 or 15 primary elections. Half the candidates will have dropped out by the time their state votes.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

On the electoral college: dirt doesn't vote and shouldn't set policy. These cities where everyone lives are the places that should set policy. They are the places where the most people have to live with the policies that are set. I'm not saying ignore the rural areas in the rural people, I'm just saying that they are second class and should be treated as second class, for good reason.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you like to eat? Because the people hanging out with that dirt are the people producing your food. Have some respect. Your cities are far more fragile and dependent than you like to pretend.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

The future of farming is in skyrise buildings.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not saying ignore the rural areas in the rural people

But you are. That's exactly what will happen. Urban voters will enact policies that work well in cities but are disastrous in rural areas. And they won't give a crap about the rural people who end up suffering and have little or no representation in government.

I'm just saying that they are second class and should be treated as second class, for good reason.

Perhaps we should codify that into law. Say, only give rural voters 3/5 of a vote? Jokes aside, I think this attitude is downright un-American. I don't think you should be first or second class based on where you live or what color your skin is. I have political views that I think are correct, but so do you and so does everybody else and the whole point of our system is we all get a seat at the table. The Framers of our Constitution made the system the way it is so that rural voters wouldn't lose their seat at the table. And I have seen nothing to believe that any modern politician is even a little bit smarter than them.