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What linux phone is closest to ready for daily use (lemmy.world)
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I want to switch from android phone to linux and i want to know which phone is closest to daily driver. I only need call sms and bluetooth to work and battery should last 1 day. also working map camera and web browser app would be great. for os i have thinked to use ubuntu touch or postmarket os. Phones what i have most interested Volla phone Pixel 3a Fairphone 4 Pinephone or pinephone pro Any thoughts or ideas

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[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah man, I think the article I initially read about PP Mobian situation was this one here just for reference if I am even remembering right -- https://blog.mobian-project.org/posts/2023/09/30/paperweight-dilemma/

I forgot about the toggles under the PP cover, I didn't know they acted as hardware kill switches like L5? Interesting for sure

Yes most SFF tech is still China, maybe someday we'll have more diversification. It'll have to do for now.

x86 is a power suck but I still think it's a interesting use case as it delivers on webpage rendering and demanding tasks. Ideally I would imagine RISCV would be the golden standard.

I guess if I wanted to be puritan maybe starting with a Librem Mini with Secure boot might make a good frankenstein phone.

I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good until we are in a position to be choosers, until then its pretty much a community effort to get the whole thing off the ground.

BeepBerry was a really interesting concept but lacked the sophistication needed to take off.

I could see a new iteration gaining ground

https://beepy.sqfmi.com/

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I forgot about the toggles under the PP cover, I didn’t know they acted as hardware kill switches like L5? Interesting for sure

Yeah, they have the same purpose. They are just a little less convenient to use.

x86 is a power suck but I still think it’s a interesting use case as it delivers on webpage rendering and demanding tasks. Ideally I would imagine RISCV would be the golden standard.

I think the power efficiency of x86 is getting better lately, but still not good enough.

I guess if I wanted to be puritan maybe starting with a Librem Mini with Secure boot might make a good frankenstein phone.

It would probably be pretty big and power hungry. It seems that it uses Coreboot, which contains proprietary blobs. Most x86 devices need those.

I won’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good until we are in a position to be choosers, until then its pretty much a community effort to get the whole thing off the ground.

I hope some next phone will get a RYF certificate from the Free Software Foundation. That's already a pretty high standard.

BeepBerry was a really interesting concept but lacked the sophistication needed to take off.

I could see a new iteration gaining ground

https://beepy.sqfmi.com/

I haven't heard of it before, but I doubt that Raspberry PI can be the solution. Does it even run a mainline Linux kernel?

[–] linmob@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah man, I think the article I initially read about PP Mobian situation was this one here just for reference if I am even remembering right – https://blog.mobian-project.org/posts/2023/09/30/paperweight-dilemma/

Someone stepped up (see https://blog.mobian.org/posts/2024/01/08/highlights-of-2023/ and afaik a-wai also mentioned this at fosdem (https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-3290-towards-a-bright-future-with-mobian-/), also long standing issues like the out-of-tree-WiFi/BT driver are being worked on currently.

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Great news, thank you for the links

[–] linmob@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Regarding Beepy: I really tried, but ... compared to that, PinePhone was easy to get to a somewhat works state in mid 2020. See https://linmob.net/enter-beepy-esc/#flaws