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Andor was amazing. I love star wars, there was a lot of iffy stuff, Mando was pretty good, but damn did Andor knock it out of the park.
Andor is kind of depressing, in that it showed what a truly quality Star Wars series could look like, that you can actually make adult/decent Star Wars content, and it made everything else Disney has put out look stupid (apart from Rogue One… huh, weird coincidence). Luthen’s monologue stands out as one of the best pieces of Star Wars content from the entire franchise, just brilliant and well delivered. Meanwhile, we’ve been getting trash, just absolute drivel from the rest of their offerings that shows how little Disney respects its audience. Mando had some moments early on, but that last season was rough and every other SW series they’ve put out has just made me hate every moment of it. Just so much bad writing, it’s insulting.
When Mando deviated too much from the space spaghetti Western, quality really went down the drain.
I loved Andor's WW2 spy thriller take on Star Wars. More serious, adult and no space wizards.
Gonna disagree with you about the quality of Mando; it's just an incredibly different type of show. I feel the exact opposite of you: I thought the first season was meh until the end, and the show has continued to get better from there (with some individual episodes that were crap).
For the record, Andor is by far my favorite piece of contemporary Star Wars media. It's not even close.
What I'm saying is, not every show or movie has to be well received by every fan.
Hell, I even enjoyed Obi-Wan for what it was. A sad waste of potential? Totally. But some of the things it set out to do were done well (specifically, showing Obi-Wan's state of mind during that time period)
I don't expect Mando to press the same emotional buttons as Andor, and I don't expect Andor to make me go "whoaaaaa awesome lightsaber duel!" the way Ahsoka did. Let them be different. We don't have to tear down anything that doesn't fit our image of the perfect star wars show
I agree with you. Except for Boba Fett. They made a bounty Hunter into an anti-mafia protagonist. This dude was out to kill Luke Skywalker and all of a sudden he’s a good guy because he spent some time in the desert with the people who also wanted to kill Luke Skywalker.
He was hired to kill Luke, what’s the point?
That’s bad guy activities
Why does that make him stereotypical evil though? are all bad people supposed to only hold “evil” values?
You’re being obtuse. That show was horrible for many reasons. If you want to argue that, you’ll need to find someone else.
The show was horrible because Fett had no character and felt like a background character in his own story. He didn't seem to really have ideas and just went along with Fennec's or others' suggestions. Some people said it felt like 1 or 2 missing episodes of the Mandalorian got stretched out into an entire show.
Totally agree! I When people mention Andor I immediately think of the monologues rather than any of the action sequences. I think that tells how good the writing was.
What do I sacrifice?
EVERYTHING!
The scene with the tractor beam was pretty great though.
I really wished we got more stuff like Andor, Rogue One, and Knights of The Old Republic II that explore more of the universe outside of “here’s a bunch of themed planets with wacky CGI aliens”.
Andor and Rogue One are really good at showing what it’s like to actually be a Rebel and live in a universe being dictated by an empire, while KOTOR 2 was a really cool look at the metanarrative of the Jedi, the Sith, and the Force as a whole.
Exactly, it was hard and gritty. I thought they did an amazing job, the movies make it feel so binary, we're good they're bad. Andor shows the grey, the actual living under the empire, what it actually means. I deseprately hope they see the numbers and see that we want more "grown up" star wars.
I have a friend who worked on the Mandalorian as a make-up artist. I was so jealous when I found out. I believe she did the Xi'an character, if I remember correctly.