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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Servers & clients use too many resources. Because of this, most have centralized around Matrix.org which kind defeats the purpose.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Servers & clients use too many resources.

Didn't XMPP solve that in, like, 1999?

(Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato)

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a Mozilla home server as well, so federation is working.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That server is under the Matrix.org fleet. It’s like saying Edge isn’t Chrome.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it