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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Is this your takeaway?

Many of these people have a tough time getting ends to meet economically. Whenever something happens that affects their already shaky bottom line there's going to be anger. Not because they get slightly less rich, but because they feel legitimately existentially threatened.

Of course this is not Ukraines fault. It is however the fault of governments if the bill to support Ukraine economically lands in the knees of the already economically stressed farmers.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the farmers protests are anything like the ones over here in Germany, then yes. Here they are openly wearing fascist symbols, calling for the lynching of our government, and physically try to attack politicians and their families.

That's on top of the fact that they support parties that are antithetical to their interests. They keep pushing for the right and far-right parties that are big proponents of austerity, in a time when big transformative investments are needed.

So yeah, fuck them.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Identitarians have been actively engaged in instrumentalising the whole thing, in the west there's the occasional idiot, in the east well you know the general problem.

Broadly speaking though farmers are overwhelmingly Green or CDU aligned. And not the Merz-style CDU, but Günther. You could just as well say that they're all filthy liberals because Lindner held a speech at a protest.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not really true though, they're wealthy land owners with huge political and economic power who screw over the poor every chance they get to make themselves richer.

Literally destroying produce to maintain high prices, and not just this example of terrorist behavior but it's standard operating procedure for the cartel to limit supply artificially. People are too poor to afford healthy food and they're out there burning it to stop prices slumping.

Then we get their routine use of migrant workers who they treat like shit and vastly underpay. While working politically to stop any improvements to the system of immigration because they benefit from poor peoples suffering, especially being able to threaten to have them deported.

I could go on...

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Ironically, a vast majority of the workers making them money have been Ukrainians who they treat like absolute trash already.

[–] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I dont know about your country, but in my country the farmers are all millionaires, wanting socialism for themselves, because its great, but not for us "city slickers" oh, no, not ever. Cant wait for AI to replace all farmers. It wont complain as much, or think it can solve its problems by ruining another nations food.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

Not because they get slightly less rich, but because they feel legitimately existentially threatened.

(x) Doubt

Let's see what luxuries they're wasting their money on before making this argument.

Something tells me all of them subscribe to digital streaming services for content they could be getting for free. That's usually just the tip of the iceberg for how these people operate.