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Yea, that's not what's happening. ACAB and police abolition are not about murdering police officers, it's about restructuring these systems entirely.
They're talking further left than that
Adding violence to the mix doesn't make it further left, it's a difference in strategy and implementation. Centrists also love violence, may I remind you about Henry Kissinger?
I have a pin that says "kill cops" in bold letters from one of the most prominent bookstores in my city. If you think there isn't cheering happening, if you think directly calling for violence isn't totally normalized on the far left, you are delusional.
Do you think it's a legitimate call to violence, or do you think it's an expression of hatred towards cops? Are left wingers actually murdering cops in significant numbers, to the point where it's "normalized," or is this an emotional expression?
Similarly, do you think murdering cops is a leftist stance, or just a violent one? What about murdering cops makes it leftist, in your eyes?
You're putting a lot of words in my mouth, like pretty much everything in your comment. I think you're trying to paint my argument as something it really is not and you're taking it too far. What is a legitimate call to violence, exactly? Are you trying to deny the stochastic effect of this type of language? Is the stochastic effect not the entire purpose of rhetoric?
My point is that killing cops isn't a leftist position. You're trying to twist it into one. Simple.
You are so painfully wrong. I've already stated that I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm not trying to do anything other than help you exercise your critical thinking skills. It should be obvious.
Kinda hard to help others do what you struggle with, I guess.
Zing! Nice deflection, you can safely go another day without questioning your perspective in the slightest.
The origins of this convo were you saying that the far-right aren't shooting people based on far-right ideology, which is wrong, because being far-right is entrenched hierarchy and social violence. Leftism is compatible with pacifism, far-right is not.
I question myself all the time, it's just that you had no coherent points to give.
It is actually impossible for you to simply read my words and interpret them as they are written without injecting your own story, isn't it? You can't just put everyone you talk to into one of two boxes.
I already stated that there is a considerable overlap between followers of right wing ideology and domestic terrorism. I am genuinely terrified that we are entering a world where reading comprehension and critical thinking are completely absent from political discussion.
"The far-right isn't shooting anyone. It's an ideology."
Yes, it's an ideology that is inherently violent, unlike the far-left.
What, exactly, did I misinterpret?
The problem isn't really that you're interpreting my words incorrectly, it's more about how you put words in my mouth and go batshit making wild assumptions about my conclusions. It's so hard to have a conversation with someone when the vast majority of it is spent walking back things I never even said.
I literally quoted you.
I was referring to the rest of the conversation. Am I wrong?