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Taking ANY vaccine has risks, and these vaccines even more so, considering their untested nature when they were introduced. We had to trust the science, but it was still a gamble.
I took the vaccine knowing that side effects were possible. That was a risk I felt comfortable with, knowing that everyone else who took it faced that same level of risk and uncertainty.
It sucks that some had these side effects, but the effectiveness of the vaccine has saved countless more lives.
Let’s not forget that before the vaccine, Covid was quite deadly. We had literal mass graves, trucks full of bodies, mass cremations that couldn’t keep up with the death toll. Between that and the vaccine risk… the choice was easy. We came way closer to catastrophe than we like to think about.
EVERYTHING has risks. People have choked to death on food before - that's not the reason to stop eating. There's a risk the ceiling is going to fall down on your head at any moment, but then if you go outside, there's a risk you might get hit by lightning or a bolt that fell off a Boeing flying above...
That's not a dig at you by the way - it's at people who argue in bad faith asking for 100% guarantees of safety, be it for vaccines or anything else. It is not possible, and people need to comprehend it - in this case the risk is on the level of being hit by lighting, so unless you're afraid of going outside, you shouldnt be afraid of the darn vaccine...
Precisely. Statistically, the largest risk I took when I got the vaccine was driving to the vaccination location itself that day.
Regarding mass graves:
New York:
https://time.com/5913151/hart-island-covid/
Peru:
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/12/04/1060167105/a-mass-covid-grave-in-peru-has-left-families-bereft-and-fighting-for-reburial
Brazil:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN22C0D2/
Trucks full of bodies:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/07/us/new-york-coronavirus-victims-refrigerated-trucks/index.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
Mass cremations and associated issues:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/22434028/india-covid-cremations
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/mass-cremations-begin-indias-capital-faces-deluge-covid-19-deaths-2021-04-23/
Now granted, some of those spilled over to when vaccines were available in the west. China had issues with lots of cremations as late as early 2023.
Thanks for the sources.
You’re welcome.
And for what it’s worth: it’s a good thing to question sources and claims in general. Especially since we might not always have the complete picture in our own specific bubble.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bodies-750-covid-19-victims-new-york-city-remain-refrigerated-n1266762
How?
Really. What missteps were made? The hysteria from ~~hesitant~~ anti-vaxxers and political fear mongerers were real, I would call "hesitant" people the ones who realize vaccines are a likely necessity but didn't understand how the COVID vaccines worked and were probably influenced by lies from the ant-vax crowd.
What middle ground could possibly be made here regarding "truth"? Vaccine risks are known and fairly well established. The risks of early COVID strains were known. The only people straddling a fence in the middle are those who lack the knowledge of the risks or have objectively real medical problem with vaccines, not some made-up junk about mercury or something.
OMG this is binary JAQing off. Nobody suggests either of these and it's ridiculous to even posit this phrase.
Plenty of people do. They're idiots of course, but there are a lot of them. My next door neighbor for one, I can't even talk to him anymore because it's always "you hear about how many people the vaccine has killed now?"
The post has likely disappeared by now, but fuck off anyway.
And mods, PLEASE ban me. This place is like a really bad drug and my life is better without it.
CaptMoron
Fuck you
Buy me dinner and vote lefty and then you can fuck me.
Since there's no other way of asking mods a question, could one of you please explain how, exactly, this post was "misinformation"?