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[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Isn't classifying a gamete, but only the female gamete (egg/ovum), and not the male gamete (sperm), of being "children" and has personhood rights, a form of sexist law. I know the Land of freedom is no rookie in taking away freedoms of the marginalized, almost the norm, but now they are taking away male gametes from being recognised as persons. Imagine in one ejaculation in Alabama and having a murder count similar to Stalin or Hitler. The court will show it was premeditated because the person bypassed state restrictions pulling out during copulation, the accused thus commited mass murder. This goes against Genesis 38 and it's Devine condemnation of coitus interruptus. Even the egg was unfertilized thus another death of a person was committed by the accused pullout game

[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not trying to defend the ruling, but it's not eggs, it's embryos

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll need to do proper research, but to my understanding the embryo is an egg(ovum). I'm not sure at what point an ovum becomes an embryo, but I'm fairly certain it's shortly after a sperm cell penetrates the outer layer and begins the mitosis.

[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

An embryo results from the fusion of an egg and a sperm (both are called 'gametes'), and although the embryo is initially more reminiscent of an egg than a sperm, it is not itself an egg (or a sperm). The person I replied to is conflating eggs and embryos.

[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

So two gametes, male sperm and famale ovum, fuse to become a zygote or embryo. I just assumed their ruling meant the gametes because that is an ovum, and an embryo is a zygote

[–] random9@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your argument holds no weight against a group of people (the current republican supporters) who have repeatedly proven to be misogynistic assholes who gladly vote for a rapist.

Cruelty is the point of their actions, not the side-effect - pointing out to them that their actions are unjust has no effect when that was their goal from the start.

[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

My argument was not meant to hold weight, it was absurdist in its meaning by taking their arguments to the extreme and show its shortcomings. Trying to convince religious zealots that their religious reasonings is wrong is just going to make them double down and commit even more. That is why I make fun of their logic through comedy and hope even though I might not reach them I might put a smile on other open minded people.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great!

If a sperm gets wasted, god get quite irate

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Although- does that mean that ovulation is murder? Or, at the very least, manslaughter?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

coitus interruptus

Lol nice