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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

anyone claiming to be Christian and getting involved in politics is not a Christian.

Classic no true Scotsman.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hardly. Being a "true" Scotsman is subjective.

What I said is demonstrable.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is, the shoe is the sign, not the gourd.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that it's not a fair comparison. The definition of a "true Scotsman" is subjective outside of literally being born in Scotland.

The definition of a Christian is defined by the teachings in the Bible. If that definition isn't met then you cannot claim to be a "true" Christian. One of those definitions is to not be involved with politics. Jesus rejected being called king because his "kingdom is no part of this world".

John 18:36 Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.”

Matthew 20:25,26: But Jesus called them to him and said: “You know that the rulers of the nations lord it over them and the great men wield authority over them. This must not be the way among you

And yet that's exactly what these Christian groups are doing; wielding power over others.

So ya, not "true" Christians.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And yet there are hundreds of other interpretations that disagree with you. Why is yours the only correct one?

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Are the other interpretations disagreeing with me or with the Bible itself? I'm showing verses directly from the Bible that state clearly what I previously mentioned.

It's difficult to interpret something that's clearly stated. And I'm not trying to interpret anything here, I'm simply showing directly what the Bible says.