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US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program::undefined

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Huh. I wonder if funding NASA better might help, Republicans?

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are likely going to fund it less and give more and more of its mission over to space force and private companies is my guess

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would also work.

The only thing that won't work for space is the thing we're doing now:

  • Maintaining a vice-like government control
  • Using that government authority to choose not to move forward

Progress only stops under a narrow set of conditions that need to be actively implemented by the government. Progress is actually natural, and progress stopping requires enormous centralized effort to interfere with people getting things done.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree privitizing space will do absolutly nothing but lead to balooned costs and stagnation.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Theoretically private programs would be an increased cost over a NASA only program since private companies want a profit margin.

But Congress being what it is tends to require NASA programs to create jobs in a lot of different voting districts across the country which leads to an insane amount of inefficiencies.

We can't have nice things because of pork barrel politics.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Private Companies however have no insintive to actualy innovate, if you look at them they are all taking decades old NASA and USSR Space program tech and resuing it ... and callling it innovation

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry... this is not true lol. You know what SpaceX is up to, right? At the least, but there are tons of interesting and innovative companies. I mean hell look at Stoke Space

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If we fold it into the space force and say it’s for targeting woke weirdos…we’ll get a billion dollars through congress by tomorrow

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Call it "search for extraterrestrial woke intelligence" and they'll melt.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Intelligence that doesn’t come from jeebus?! They’ll burn that ark before it leaves the ground

Search for god or his patio or whatever…now you’ve got Midwest money

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

"Search for extraterrestrial divine intelligence" or "a strategy to get closer to God through space colonization", say, a Stanford torus in some L point (that's so expensive that it ain't gonna happen, but they'll also be very excited, I think).

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We could just say the "anti-woke" part and not even bother with the space force part and that would probably work.

The woke boogieman is the biggest thing to scare them in years.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The woke boogeyman scares us because it, itself, is a set of false threats that are distracting us from real threats.

Like, we're worried about war, a shifting global power structure, the degradation of systems of detente that keep the worst in humanity from emerging, and the woke crowd wants us to treat the feelings of exclusion of trans people as the most important threat on the board.

The woke movement is a boogeyman movement, and that's why we treat it as dangerous. The woke movement is a push to get new boogeymen added to our threat list and moved to top priority over things we know will actually kill us.

And thing that really, really scares us, is that the system that has proven to be the salve for the ills of massive unleashed violence, the system we call free market economics, is being targeted by the woke crowd because they refuse to read the history of the things they're proposing. They're all like "we don't want people to suffer so let's abolish private property". That's like saying "we don't want people to drown, and people tend to drown when they're near boats, so let's destroy this boat we're all in, to prevent drowning!"

It's terrifying to us because there are serious things to be afraid of, and the woke movement is asking us to ignore or even embrace those things.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

There is no "woke movement." That's exactly why you're scared of a boogieman. They don't exist either.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Instead, I think we should defund China.

rapturous GOP applause and cheering

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Switch the funding for the MIC and NASA for one year. We'll have fusion power cracked in 5.