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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My 15” MacBook Air M2 with 24gb of ram was under $2000, with the HDD upgrade. I mean, you find me a PC that can benchmark the same for under that. Make sure it’s the same size and the screen is comparable.

[–] roadkill@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so you didn't come here to discuss... you came here to evangelize. Way to completely dance around my original point about unified memory.

My 15” MacBook Air M2 with 24gb of ram was under $2000, with the HDD upgrade.

Okay? And? You still paid 2 grand for a system with fixed specs and an SSD that can't be replaced when its writes are exhausted.

For the MacBook Air... 256GB to 512GB, 512GB to 1TB, 1TB to 2TB storage upgrades are all in $200 increments.

So you're paying Apple $800 extra to get 2TB of storage with your Macbook Air. Fixed. Permanent. Non replaceable.

Meanwhile I can put this: https://i.imgur.com/VOo7hdT.png in my laptop right now for about the same cost as your 256GB to 512GB upgrade... any time I wish... without having to replace the entire device and buy a new one in order to do so.

But yes, let's move goalposts and I'll waste my time "find[ing you] a PC that can benchmark the same for under that."

You know why it's a waste of time? Because you can't run MacOS on anything I'd find, and my programs and apps run on x86 processors. Gaming is a distant afterthought for Apple's systems. You guys like to pretend "oooh wheee, I'm efficient! No, wait, I'm faster!" changing whatever goal net you're aiming for depending on what points you want to score while ignoring everything else that is being brought up.

And when I do present you with a better configuration, the new goalpost will be battery life.

But I'll play your stupid game anyway.

Closest CPU to the M2 8 Core in your Macbook Air is the Ryzen 5 5600U. Performs about the same overall despite having two less cores. Neat.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4922vs4284/Apple-M2-8-Core-3500-MHz-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600U

So I picked a laptop at random that has it: The HP ProBook 455 G8.

Right now I can buy it on Amazon for $649. New. https://i.imgur.com/kWVL8Qy.png

HP ProBook 455 G8 15.6" Notebook - AMD Ryzen 5 5600U Hexa-core (6 Core) 2.30GHz - 8GB RAM - 256GB SSD - Windows 10 Pro - AMD Radeon Vega Graphics

Two DDR4 ram sockets, takes PCIe NVMe SSDs for storage upgrades.

Let's throw that 2TB SSD into it that I found. Now the price is $868.

Gotta upgrade that ram. 2x16GB SODIMM DDR4 is about $67. https://i.imgur.com/Y1jogbd.png

$935 total. So it looks like I can get a system that performs the same as your $2000 MBA for less than the cost of the base MBA. But also has 8 times the storage and 4 times the ram compared with the base MBA. $1299 versus $935.

Make sure it’s the same size and the screen is comparable.

Oops, I forgot to check the specs of the screen. Silly me.

The Macbook Air M2 screen is 2560 x 1664 and...

39.62 cm (15.6 in) diagonal FHD UWVA eDP and PSR anti-glare, low power narrow bezel bent, 400 nits, 100% sRGB for HD camera (1920 x 1080)

...the HP's is 1920x1080.

Oh darn it, you got me. Your goalpost moving resulted in a win. I guess I'll just take the $1064 I saved over your config and stroke my cock with it. Meanwhile, the HP comes with a 65 Watt power brick by default instead of the MBA's underpowered 35 watter, has more than twice as many ports... and a major bonus to me: It doesn't run the abomination that is MacOS. (PS: I don't like or use Windows either, so you can go ahead and skip that expected drivel you have in your pocket about Micro$uck.)

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope someone reads this, cause I’m not.

[–] roadkill@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Way to out yourself as an iDevice troll. Shame y'all have the exact same bag of tricks cause we could see that coming from miles away... but that's just what happens when the extent of your understanding of technology relies on something being called 'magical' before you'll use it.

Shame that you don't really care to address Apple's longstanding habit of overcharging for outdated specs as it is especially egregious. Especially when you consider I had an HP Envy 13 laptop that had 3200x1800 resolution, 8GB Ram and 256GB SSD... That sold for under $1000... In 2015. ($849.99.)