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I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping.
I look at it as Actual price = menu price + lowest suggested tip + $5 tip awkwardness penalty. So a place near me has a $12 lunch-size sub sandwich that's really good. But they ask for a 15% tip. So rather than just never eat at my favorite sandwich spot, I regard it as a $18.80 lunch and only buy it on rare occasions or when my company is paying.
You're tipping at a sandwich shop? Do they even bring you the sandwich and fill your drink for you?
You tip a fastfood?
If I'm getting it to go, no tip. Or just the tip.
Same. I multiply any restaurant price by 4/3 to account for taxes, fees, and tips when determining if I want to go.
Taxes and fees should included in the price, in civilised countries anyway. That sounds like such a pain.
They are included in the price in civilized countries. It is only a very very limited number of places where you can't hand a cashier $5 to pay for something literally labelled $5 and then walk out.
I think the guy you replied to is from the US.
I hate American math
Going anyway and just not tipping is also a completely acceptable and legally protected option. Sort of like saying 'no thank you' to the grocery store check out person asking for charity donations or if you would like to sign up for the store credit card.
Again, it's optional. So people can also say 'yes' if they want and that's cool too I guess. Although tipping is inherently harmful to the server's baseline wage which is a bit problematic, if people want to tip they can and no one is stopping them. And I won't give them shit about it unless they specifically inquire about it. Since the whole thing is 'optional' after all I let them make their own decisions and if tipping gives them a nice release of serotonin or dopamine or something that makes them feel better, who am I to take that from them.
Just don’t eat out if you don’t want to tip. Tipping culture is fucked but servers are just as victimized as customers.
This is a valid choice. What isn't valid is still going out to restaurants, having a gay ol time, and then refusing to tip your server on principle while the owner did nothing and made a killing.
I'm not really a big fan of this rhetoric. People should be able to go to a restaurant and eat without being expected to pay more than what their food costs. They shouldn't be shamed for not wanting to tip. This becomes an issue of personal morality which is why I just don't eat out, but I don't think it's anyone else's business except for the person spending the money since it is their money after all. It's not a customer's responsibility to make up the pay of a business's employee. PERIOD. Basically what I'm saying is I don't go places that expect me to tip but I 100% support people's decisions to go to restaurants and not tip because that is their right.