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Any other greens feel under attack recently from democrats in the United States? (self.solarpunk)

submitted 9 months ago by Fisherman75 to c/solarpunk

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I'm voting green because if democracy is 'on the ballot' then I figure it's the choice I actually believe in and not just the slightly lesser of two evils. And so recently I feel targeted by democrats and its getting kind of weird and I was wondering if any other greens are experiencing the same thing in the US. I'm very open about my party preference and intentions for 2024.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Let's see, an honest question posted about voting Green nets you a current score of -8. Yeah I'd say you're justified in feeling attacked.

I'm Canadian and don't know much about the US Greens, but I can tell you that any party that would run Joe Biden twice is not a party I'd ever vote for, especially now given his miserable response to literal genocide.

The Democrats can do this because they think they have your vote by default. It's not like you're going to vote Republican, right?

But here's the thing: you don't get progress that way. The Democrats are never going to run someone who doesn't support Israel unequivocally or isn't fixated on helping capitalism destroy the planet so long as they think they can count on you voting "not Republican" every time. Yes, the Republicans are worse, but contrary to appearances, they're on the same team, presenting the illusion of choice so long as that choice favours as little actual change for the rich as possible.

So yeah, fuck the Democrats, and definitely fuck Joe Biden and any other "let the world burn" candidate. Vote green if you want, or stay home if you like. Just make it clear to Democrats (and their apologists in this thread) that your vote isn't a given. That's how you drag them kicking and screaming toward progress.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately the US is just... very right wing. Even the democrats are right of center on most things. This is just a conservative country. The democrats are about as left as you get in this country with any mainstream support, no matter how much we wish it weren't so.

And I know man, I hate it, and I'm not going to lecture anyone that votes their conscious. If you don't want to vote for democrats, and Biden specifically, I can't blame you. It bewilders me that the most we can get from him over a goddamn genocide is "that's a little much, Jack." If you can't vote for that I get it.

Just don't fall into the trap of thinking that the US is more left leaning than it is. We might win on issue-to-issue polls, but when it comes down to it we're a selfish nation that has bought into the temporarily embarrassed millionaire meme. And I don't think that's just the pessimism talking. We have generations worth of work ahead of us.

[–] ex_06 6 points 9 months ago

Downvotes are caused by being very much off topic

[–] Fisherman75 2 points 9 months ago

100%. Yes. This. High five.