I see the left eating its own all the time. A lot of it is the No True Leftist fallacy. Let's say you're a gay vegan communist hippie who just so happens to think trans women shouldn't use the womens bathroom, then you're not reasoned with, you're immediately a bigot. This is the wrong kind of policing and causes people to seek validation from people who think the same.

I'm leftist for sure, communism is the end-goal. I'm vegan, I hate animal exploitation and suffering. We need to save the planet and ourselves. Discrimination sucks. Rehabilitation is more important than punishment. I'm atheist, religion is harmful. What am I missing?

The phrases are meant to get a reaction and spark a conversation sure. That happens on the left, but the right take it at face value and run with it.

The meanings behind the slogans.

"All cops are bastards" systemic issues inherently make the duty of the police, not a community hero, but a revenue generating, fear mongering enforcer of dumb laws.

There are good police officers though who do want to help. That's why I don't like it.

"Black Lives Matter" yeah, they do. End of story.

"Trans women are women" the word woman used to exclusively mean "female at birth". Now it means "those who identify as a woman". Therefore, identifying as a woman makes you a woman.

How'd I do doc? Did I pass? Or am I literally Hitler?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are good police officers though who do want to help.

Not in the current system. Down to the local precinct they are required to cover for their less kind / more brutal brethren in blue.

If you are in law enforcement in the US in the 2020s, you need to get out. The system really is that comprehensively corrupt.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is what the right cannot hear, this is the optics I'm talking about. We can't say the quiet part out loud.

I am not convinced that literally all cops are bastards, there are some who are trying to change the system from within, we need to hold these people up as exemplars.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago

They don't try very hard. If they do, they get demoted, discharged or dead very quickly.

Efforts to change the system from within have been going on for over a century now. We've seen the same patterns of corruption and brutality surface, get confronted and then dismissed with the same inaction.

No, they're all bastards to the last, and even those who quit have to confront the injustice in which they've personally participated just to sleep at night. Law enforcement in the US exhibits a lot of similarities to Heydrich's Sicherheitsdienst and engages in the same kind of overpolicing in order to justify its violence and continued existence.

As for those unwilling to hear it, or who buy into the pervasive pro-police propaganda in the media, they put themselves at risk, for the face-eating leopards are very much on the prowl.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The phrase acab does not imply that literally every single police officer out there is corrupt, a bad cop, whatever, but rather that the police as an institution in general corrupt to the core, acts on impulse, aggression, racism. The goal is to point to the wrongdoings of the police as a whole, as a system.

It's the same thing when people say that, as a whole, all men are pigs or something similar. Yes, of course there are men that aren't but the vast majority of them is. The phrase is pointing to patriarchy, rich white men ruling the world, essentially, toxic masculinity and many other things.

vegan btw

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not my understanding. "All cops are bastards" because even the "good" cops are complicit in a corrupt system. A cop who is actually a good person can't remain a cop for long, because they would have to fight the very system that they're a part of. In order to remain a cop, you have to remain silent to the injustices that you're aware of.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

I agree. I'd argue though that these two directions complement each other instead of being contradictory.