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I was just talking from experience. I believe that the spammer could easily create a new account and then just spam offending images, whatever.
I mean, again, automod could easily be configured to solve that if they build it into the platform. A server being invite only is totally fine to me, reddit has that functionality as well. I fully support the ability to make private servers with account approval processes.
Yes, I wouldn't mind a theoretical automod that helped with admin work. I am not against that. I am trying to explain how we arrived at the situation we are at today, where all servers are with application only.
Your account is 3 hours old, what do you think is the ethos of Lemmy?
Where do you read this, on lemmy or the website? https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/index.html
Because someone might spam disgusting content because they don't like lemmy.
FOR WEEKS THERE WHERE PHOTOS OF PEOPLE EATING SHIT IN THE TIMELINE A COUPLE OF TIMES PER DAY.
That's why the code is public, for lemmy as well.
You know, there was a nazi lemmy server, a while ago. It just wasn't connected to all but one or two very small other right-wing lemmy servers. Because everyone else blocked them.
So wait, do they even still exist on the platform at all, or are the servers themselves and the users as well entirely banned from the platform entirely?
There is no platform. There just are independent servers that make their own decisions.
Okay then to be honest, I'm really struggling to see the problem with what I'm saying here, since it seems to me you are agreeing that independent servers get to make those types of decisions. I'm a little confused and could use some clarification on what you mean.
Just to explain, each instance can make their own decisions, but then they risk being defederated by other instances for their decisions. On their own instance, they can still function however they want, though.
Gotcha, so basically they're detached from the main network and thus don't appear in other users feeds?
If by main network you mean the largest federated network (the largest number of federated instances together), then it is precisely that.
It is then up to each user to decide where to create an account. On any single instance? On multiple instances where some might be federated with only a small subset of instances and others might be more general instances federated with multitude of instances, for example on the largest federated network? It depends on what the user comes here looking for. Whatever works for them is great.
Let's just stop this conversation here ^^
No prob! If you don't want to continue discussing that's entirely your prerogative, and I won't push the issue further.
My guess is once the software matures some some more open instances will pop up. The basics are still being figure out and honed, and with the higher user accounts the past few days admins are already struggling to keep things running. I've seen several of the larger instances go up and down all day (hence why I fired up my own for myself)
Question then, would a viable solution to what I'm suggesting be simply adding an indicator of whether servers auto-approve user account creation or not on the join-lemmy.org site?
Yep! That would be the place for them.
I'm not aware of any open instances that exist at the moment though. Eventually once some automatic moderation tools start developing they'll probably start (slowly) popping up.
Yeah as long as there is an indicator of whether a server is an open instance or not would immediately solve the issue I'm describing, for myself at least.
I opened a github issue for this here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2899