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I have a lemmy.ml account and i didn't know that they were bad . I created this account after seeing that post .( I am not into politics as you can see if you visited the account i have put in my bio ) so is that true ?

-Ca. someone explain like what are the lemmy devs political stance ?

-Is lemmy as whole affected by it because i think the two main guys who hold all the cards are the ones with these opinions ,like do they have any control on lemmy as whole in anyway ? Or just the instance ?( I know if they are really bad we can fork lemmy)?

-Is feddit.ch good in these aspects ?

-Are they even really bad or do everyone have different opinions ? The things i consider bad and not polical stance are : for instance i just don't like trump because he is against t lgbt and being racist etc. Which are geniunly bad in my opinion and not just difference in opinions .

  • i know this is more than one question but please answer as much as i can and when talking politics talk like you are explainining politics to a five year old .

  • If this isn't the right sub i apologise please don't just down voat me to hell atleast explain where i should move it and i will do that

  • Thanks in advance will read each and every reply and updoot and reply as much as i can .

EDIT : And if they are that bad why aren't anyone forking it ? It's not like they are carrying the whole thing . Everyone is contributing .

  • Also if the dev's want to explain their sides i would like to hear it .
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[–] THEDAEMON@feddit.ch 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Woah ! That's what tankies means huh.

While individual instances do have a significant degree of freedom, there is still potential issues with the lead developers being supporters of authoritarian ideologies, if only because that mindset will impact their understanding of how moderation/administration should work in their software.

-so how much power do they have over everything ?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They only have power over the instances they control. I haven't seen their ideology creep into development of the infrastructure at least.

[–] THEDAEMON@feddit.ch 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But if they started can we stop them . Like i am thinking they can't take their toys home because it's foss , Am i wrong ?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

If it crept in I would expect someone to fork the project. That’s the beauty of open source.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The beauty of lemmy is that it is not centralized. You do not need to log into any instance they have that type of control of. You can create your own instance of lemmy as well.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah. Exactly. They can take it down but the software is out there and we have the legal right to use and improve it in perpetuity

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

It dates back to the Soviets sending in the tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution and later Prague Revolution, though I think most people using it today are intending to invoke Tienanmen Square imagery, which is still totally on-the-nose.

By definition, fediverse mods only have power over their own instances, so their power grows with their own userbase and shrinks any time another user/instance refuses to do business with them. Admins have vanishingly little power except where admins are ALSO mods of major instances.

And if you still want all the same content with even less lemmy touch, kbin (or kbin-based instances) are an option -- the one I use for that very reason. Interoperability HUGELY hardens a platform against toxic personalities. Plus ernest seems to be very fucking low-key and chill.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Not much. Are there a lot of communists on Lemmy? Yes. Is that because non communists were pushed out by the creators? No. I’m a syndicalist who blames the USSR for stabbing us in the back in Spain and giving the country to Franco. I also stand by Nestor Makhno’s stance against both red and white armies. Does that mean the creator of Lemmy dislikes me? Maybe. Am I afraid to express those positions on here? No.

We have a strong left bent in part because open source software is popular with queer and left wing nerds. Also because there’s other alternatives that the far right prefers

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Instance admin only have power over their own instance (IE lemmy.ml mods cannot do anything on lemmy.world). Their power is fairly limitted as you can always move to a new instance if you're unhappy with them.

The Lemmy developers have more power, as they develop the tools everyone uses, so they act as a sort of "director", being able to reinforce behaviours they want by improving tools and UI in areas they care about and vice-versa. That said, ultimately, its an open source project so if they piss-off too many people, someone else will split off their own version of Lemmy and effectively replace them - Kbin being a current competitor, for example.