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President Joe Biden on Sunday ticked through a list of reasons he says a second Donald Trump presidency would be a “nightmare” for the country as he urged Nevada Democrats to vote for him in the state’s presidential primary this week and for his party at large in November.

Biden opened a campaign swing with a fundraiser where he focused on Trump’s ample history of provocative statements — his description of Jan. 6 rioters as “hostages,” his musing about a former top military officer deserving execution, his branding of fallen soldiers as “suckers” and “losers,” his wish to be a Day One “dictator,” his vow to supporters that “I am your retribution,” and more.

Then it was on to a community center in a predominantly Black section of Las Vegas, where he told his crowd of several hundred that “you’re the reason we’ll make Donald Trump a loser again.”

Biden said the stakes were huge when he took on Trump in 2020 — “what made America America, I thought, was at risk’ — and they are even larger now as a likely rematch looms.

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[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think he's trying to get swing and less like to vote votes, not appeal to the loony party

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Youre correct, this message isnt for the GQP, this message is for those that dont want to go out and vote

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Enormous divisions are showing within the GOP as the unreasonable forces are gaining ground, but the old guard knows how insane and fascist this path is.

That part of the GOP is sizable and realizing they don't need to follow along the same path as the fascists. Give those people a soft landing, not a harsh criticism, and they'll join your decision that they don't want the future presented to them.

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What a fancy way to say, "please dont punish us for spending the last 8 years supporting a rapist who our members of the House voted to support in an attempt to overthrow democracy!"

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Punish? Where'd that come from

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Youre assuming punish in the most direct sense of the word.

Im not talking about beating people in the streets.

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I didn't take issue with the definition or literal use, it's that what that person wrote doesn't correspond with what you said with any interpretation of "punish".

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 months ago

His point is that they FEAR punishment. 🤦

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 months ago

His point is that they FEAR punishment. 🤦

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you interested in a better future for everyone, or punishing the spectrum of those who you feel were led to make decisions you don't agree with?

You can't have both.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can we trust they won’t turn around and do it again immediately?

Like I agree in principle with you, but I have no trust left

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The point is to wear each other out. They're just people, talk to them and give them education and safe spaces to discuss ideas.. it's not the fair idea, but it's the idea that breaks the system of hate keeping us at each other's throats, too busy with an ideological war to fight the class war that'll free society.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If you think there exists a "safe" space to discuss fascism, and overthrowing democracy, then you really have no concept of what's happening in this country right now.

Last time we went easy on traitors, they built memorials to their traitorous scum leaders and created the "lost cause" concept that is ruining our country to this day.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

The safe space needs to exist for them to bring it up and not feel threatened into defending their position, but allowing them to question their beliefs in a way to helps them see the hippocracy of their positions.

A black guy got dozens of KKK members to stop being racist by talking to them. I'd argue that his methods can be utilized here.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Kind of like that we did with the south after the Civil War?

How did Reconstruction end up going again...?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago