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Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 9 months ago by Track_Shovel to c/mensliberation@lemmy.ca
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Despite the triggering headline, this is a pretty good article that talks about how younger men are falling for this horseshit

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[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think men in general need to stop smelling their own farts and take a long, hard, and uncomfortable look in the mirror.

Figure out who exactly it is you want to be. What traits does this version of yourself have? Chances are, ‘intolerant shit sack’ aren’t the words we want to describe ourselves with.

I think this mentality is why so many men have a problem with feminism. When you start your conversation with "you're the problem", you're going to alienate the group you're attempting to reach out to. Men have real problems that deserve to be noticed and recognized, and not all of them are a result of patriarchal culture. Telling them that they're to blame for their problems because they're "intolerant shit sacks" is just going to convince them that the problem is feminism.

[–] Track_Shovel 1 points 9 months ago

When you start your conversation with "you're the problem", you're going to alienate the group you're attempting to reach out to.

Valid. However, my vitriol stems primarily from having been a shit sack at one point. It's painful to see many guys suffer through the same thing. Most of which, may not be as lucky as I was and actually clue in and want to change, or will struggle to change but be unable to due to lack of support or guidance.

Men have real problems that deserve to be noticed and recognized, and not all of them are a result of patriarchal culture

Again, on the nose, and while we must acknowledge and validate these issues, we absolutely must not let ourselves wallow or let these issues limit or define us.