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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

BRB in my to keep a rental car without paying.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"Piracy isn't stealing? Does that mean stealing also isn't stealing? Checkmate!"

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not owning the car after payment. And I have to follow criteria when using the car.

So why is that not ok?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
  1. Possessing a physical object is different from digital media. You aren't copying a car, your possession of it prevents someone else from possessing it.

  2. Renting a physical object does not mean the option to purchase the physical object and own it does not exist. Nobody was upset with the existence of video rental stores because they also had the option to buy and own the videos. If you purchased a movie from Walmart, Walmart didn't come to your house and take the DVD away once they stopped stocking it.

  3. 1 and 2 are obvious, so you're either an idiot and not worth trying to explain every simple concept to, or entirely disingenuous. Either way if you're going to continue to JAQ off then it's a waste of time to continue responding.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing"

I'm still confused how this only applies to digital media. In both cases I am agreeing to terms of services.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You don't see how "piracy" only refers to digital media? What do you think "piracy" is?

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What you seem to are saying is that specifically and exclusively people who work on software, music and digital art should give away their labour for free.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

Strawman. What I am saying is when I purchase software, music and digital art, I should own my copy of it and be able to freely use and enjoy it until the end of time. Not until the place I "purchased" it from no longer sells it.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, whenever I rent a car, I am agreeing to a rental agreement that outlines the terms. Length of time, extremely fees, and the cost of renting.

If I buy digital media through an online storefront. I am also agreeing to terms. Which in certain cases will see me buying a licence to the media rather than a copy of it.

What I am confused about is how it is fine to steal digital media but not physical items.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am agreeing to a rental agreement that outlines the terms. "Length of time*, extremely fees, and the cost of renting.

So you don't see the difference between a specifically defined length of time/conditions on when it will be returned vs "We'll take the car back at any time without warning while outwardly presenting it as you purchasing the car outright."

What I am confused about is how it is fine to steal digital media but not physical items.

Because again you don't understand simple language and think JAQing off is a more appropriate way to get answers than doing a simple search on your own.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_is_theft

Courts have distinguished between copyright infringement and theft.

Lawmakers and people smarter than you have already established there is a difference between piracy and stealing. Your insistence on calling them the same thing is as intelligent as saying "Why can I shoot people in digital media, but when I shoot people from my car it's illegal? What's the difference?"

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

We'll take the car back at any time without warning while outwardly presenting it as you purchasing the car outright

Sounds like you should start reading the terms and conditions.

Because again you don't understand simple language and think JAQing off is a more appropriate way to get answers than doing a simple search on your own.

Almost as if I'm doing it on purpose. But that can't be the case, can it?

Lawmakers and people smarter than you

Hopefully smart enough to fully read a Wikipedia article.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Shhh... Some people read the post and think it makes some logical sense.