Most of the people that agree with Israel I've come across are very religious and can't comprehend that they are wrong because they are on the side of the good guys in the bible. It doesn't matter if you show them sources. They have spent their whole life closing their eyes to anything that threatens their worldview

[–] Mir@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm being sincere in that question, I don't have much information about the Bible. But how are they the good guys when they killed Jesus? Isn't that reason enough to think they are not the good guys?

[–] Rogers@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

A large part of the old Testament is about the Jewish people and how they are God's chosen people. In the new testament Jesus made it (to the Christian perspective) so everyone gets to be in that chosen club. The crucifix is a roman thing even though the angy mob was Jewish, Jesus was also Jewish, many followers of Jesus were Jews etc. Also some prophecies in the book of revelations (last book in the bible) but I don't remember much off hand.

Add in the horrors of the Holocaust and its hard for people with a simplistic good or bad/binary worldview to even understand other perspectives.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're mostly right and the Christian church has been deeply antisemitic for most of its history.

The Holocaust had a deeply chilling effect on those aspects of the Christian church and while the overt antisemitism has largely vanished the last 80 years, the theology of most Christians still has antisemitic thought baked in to it.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Talk about holding a grudge for 2000 years.