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Those reading this should stop and consider why anyone would discourage you from voting.
Those reading this should stop and consider why capital would encourage you to vote.
I will reiterate that you can vote if you want to, but it will not defeat fascism, only organization and action will. Please, prove me wrong.
Oh, that’s easy.
I want you to vote because last time we let Republicans win they stacked the Supreme Court the way we all said they would before the election and my wife and daughter’s lives got more dangerous.
I did vote, and will vote Joe Biden again. And my wife and daughter’s lives got more dangerous too. But that will not be enough to stop the fascism that’s here. The Republicans will continue to consolidate power and they will win more elections. Voting will never be enough.
Well I’m down with that. Voting does not preclude you from doing other things.
I’m touchy from all of my time on Reddit leading up to elections. SHITLOADS of comments and posts seemingly suggesting that we shouldn’t even bother voting.
Yeah from what I see they normally meet every "go vote" with "voting isn't the best way to do this", but forget to include a "however, it's the only real way short of a full revolution to prevent the worse"
It will - ifanything - only delay the worst and will draw attention away from building towards a revolution.
Look at OP's posting history, and they are one of them.
You got me. My 7 month account is the reason Hillary lost to Trump. It was me. And when Trump wins in 10 months, or Tucker Carlson in ‘28, or Nick Fuentes in ‘32, also me. I’m the reason.
Do you not see how saying "Voting doesn't work" might encourage people to not vote, or do you think pointing at nebulous solutions with no defined call-to-action generates community participation?
Put a link to an organization that you think will help, and ask them if they think voting does nothing.
That wasn’t the point of the meme. But to assuage criticism of depressing the vote, I hereby endorse Claudia De la Cruz for President.
Which is it?
Well, now I’m not voting just to spite you.;(
Voting for liberals over fascists will buy more time to organize and slow the descent into fascism. You're correct, it won't stop it, but if your analysis stops right there and you don't take every easy win you can in the fight against Capital, you're LARPing.
At some point; the left is going to have to recognize that climate change necessitates an expeditious transition. The sooner, the better.
Yes, so not voting will make it certain that we never get the chance to transition. Voting alone won't work, just like grassroots organizing alone won't work. Both can work, but only together.
Pinochet, the dictator who assassinated the elected president and violently took over Chile with US assistance was removed from power by a vote. For years his political opponents had even been sent to concentration camps that are still around to this day.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Chilean_presidential_referendum#:~:text=A%20referendum%20on%20whether%20Augusto,a%2Dhalf%2Dyear%20rule.
Forgot to mention that the coup was on Spetemer 11, 1973. Pinochet had been in power for about 15 years by the time the vote happened.
In order to help get the youth to vote No and end Pinochet's reign, the campaign created a pop song.
https://youtu.be/IFAMpW0hPNY?si=tO-glfpypVv_GV3P
Great. You proved me wrong. Now I don’t have to worry about fascism in America now. Thanks.
Then this election in America is not a big deal and it won’t matter if we vote third party. Right?
The least people vote only helps the fascists