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Jfc. The snowflakes here.
Yes, fuck Apple, sure. But tell your kids they don’t have to care. In the end it’s just a computer and any relationship that actually matters won’t teeter on which fucking app you use. If your kid is getting ostracized from a group ONLY because they don’t use iMessage, tell them they’ve found the wrong group and they’re worth way more than that. Real friends are more than willing to take a 2-second step and install a second chat app to accommodate friends who cannot use iMessage. There are more androids out there than iPhones anyway.
Corporations are not your friends. They will not take responsibility for your kids unless they’re forced or they decide they want to get paid for doing it. Your kids deserve to know how to navigate society despite this. Teach them.
WTF? Have you never met a kid in your life? Kids are stupid, their brains are still developing. You can't just reason with them, explain that the thing they want is stupid and that they should actually want something else. It gets worse with teenagers, they think they are actually smart and stop listening while thinking that every choice they make will have a huge impact on their entire life. Telling them to "suck it up and find some other friends" has to be the most pointless thing you can do.
Look, I hate kids, don't have any and never will but even I understand how fucked up it has to be for your kid to be excluded from activities because they don't have a phone or have the wrong one. Being a parent now has to really suck. All kids bond over things that are bad for them (social media) so you pretty much have to choose how do you prefer to hurt your kid: by giving them a phone or by making them an outcast.
If you think you know how bad one teen can get, try dealing with classrooms of them, for over a decade.
At that age in their development, their brains start sloughing off cells that it thinks it doesn’t need, so they go out and do stupid shit no matter what you try to tell them. They’re basically learning more from serious fuckups than anything else because those are the lessons that stick.
At that age you’ve just got to compromise. In this case, I’d say tell them they can get whatever phone they want as long as they pay for it themselves and hear out your concerns. If you’re the one buying, tell them tough shit, they get what they get, or make them write you an essay of why they think they deserve a one kind of phone over the one you think they ought to have. It gives you an opportunity to hear them out completely, call out bs, share some personal insight, or maybe even reconsider your own stance on the issue.
Seriously.
It's bizarre you're getting downvoted for saying this. Yeah, a lot of teens / kids won't understand, but that's fine if they don't immediately understand. Pain brings progress.
Downvotes don’t bother me. Both figuratively and literally, considering they don’t seem to be federating.