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[–] pizza_rolls@kbin.social 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is my #1 also. So many people "just asking questions"

I also hate the circlejerk of people going "I cannot possibly comprehend being gay/trans/disabled/whatever but I let them do what they want!" They're not aliens, you can listen to them explain what they are going through and have empathy. It's not very complicated.

[–] Magikjak@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it’s a good attitude to serve as a stepping stone away from bigotry, it appeals to the bigots by offering some common ground while giving them a path to becoming less outwardly bigoted. Social progress takes time, especially with attitudes engrained as much as homophobia used to be.

[–] zalack@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, I grew up in a very conservative area and was pretty homophobic when I started college.

"They can do whatever they want, just don't ask me to like it" was an important stepping stone towards "oh shit, love is love" and finally actually listening to the experience of gay people.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ultimately "live and let live" is all we can ask of anyone. If that is their attitude then they aren't a bigot. People are expecting too much of other people now - not embracing someone does not make someone a bigot.

Your starting position to me is honestly enough but unfortunately many people are way away from that. As a gay guy, I'd be happy with people just saying "do whatever you want want, just don't ask me to like it". The problem is too many people claim that with words but then actually act differently.

[–] Today@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to see your junk and I don't care who you're sleeping with. I don't understand why that's a hard position for people to take.

[–] Niello@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't understand why you stereotyped people and basically insulted them and then wondered why people are offended? Yea? No one wants to see your fucking junk either. No, just because you're not gay doesn't make you any more or less likely to do what you are accusing them of.

[–] Today@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Niello@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly what I said you bigot.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you missed his point.

[–] Niello@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are the one who miss the point.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, whatever.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

reddit never functioned as a stepping stone away from bigotry. A lot of mods were content to offer their subs and users to serve as stepping stones for bigots to walk all over, though.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh don't get me started on the sealioning from the bigots! "But we need to have more Valuable Discussion™ about my horseshit that's been debunked a million times already!"