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[–] DdCno1@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Go back a few pages and see that only 2% of voters consider Israel the most important issue. Next to nobody is going to base their voting decision on Biden's Israel policy.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Not the most important doesn't mean "not important" though. The idea that someone will be like "well you know I don't approve of my tax money being used to commit a genocide but man did he help bring down inflation" is quite funny to me.

I would guess you are right. What worries me is that you're wrong and Trump wins again, is even worse for Palestinians and literally everyone else as well. I'm not saying it's a logical thing to do but people are not always logical. And what does Biden gain again?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not a problem that we’re trying to get him to fail then. Surely only 2% of people won’t make any difference so why are you trying to stop us?

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because you can never be too careful. Yes, it's almost certainly not a problem, but don't tempt fate. Biden is the best choice by a country mile, for everyone involved. This doesn't mean he's perfect, he most certainly isn't, but neither is any other politician in all of human history. Vote for the least flawed of the leading two candidates in your system. Doing anything else - third party, abstaining - only benefits fascists.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not tempting fate, I am deliberately trying to make sure we get what we deserve for supporting a genocide supporting and enabling president.

Maybe trump 2 will make people realize that supporting genocide won’t help you win an election.

Maybe you guys will think twice before supporting genocide again.

You guys love to watch innocent people burn and die?

Time to bring that shit home to roost!

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Burning the house down instead of cleaning up your room has never been a viable strategy.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Nor has just pointing out that your brother's room is even messier

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It is when you intend to rebuild from scratch.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What exactly are you hoping for, I'm genuinely curious. The collapse of the American state, violent revolution, a civil war?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, we go full on French and bring out the guillotine.

We can get it done and get it over, and we start to rebuild in a better way

[–] bramblepatchmystery 1 points 9 months ago

I would read about the early days of the Bolsheviks having taken power.

Within weeks they realized they could not rebuild from scratch and began making deals with middle managers to run the factories.

The Czar's intelligence apparatus was folded in (how could it not, they were the only people who could give insight on how to deal with the Germans and English).

If you get your way with your little temper tantrums, you are going to find you didn't create a better system, you just found a new system to legitimize killing those you don't like.

But the truth is, you already know all this. All your explanations are just pretenses so that actual leftists might not realize that you are one of the fascists we have to deal with.