I've known a couple that moved to America for college after, and they were very anti-Israel and didn't like talking about their time in. The few times it did come up, we were usually drunk and their remorse was very apparent. Pretty sure the only reason they'd talk about it, was because I'm a US veteran. And there's lots of shit America's military has done that I'm ashamed of too.

But since everyone has to serve in the IDF, lots of shitty people are also veterans of the IDF.

The real question is how they got Israeli munitions into America to use in the first place.

Did they smuggle it over "just in case" when they came to America?

Or did it get smuggled in after explicitly for this purpose?

And if so, was it with the knowledge and support of the Israeli government?

Or are they just irresponsible with all the military equipment American taxpayers are forced to pay for?

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

But since everyone has to serve in the IDF, lots of shitty people are also veterans of the IDF.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think this ignores the fact that Israel's dehumanization and brutalization of Palestinians is a systematic one. It's not just that there are good and bad humans in the IDF as much as it is that negative behavior is encouraged, often unpunished, and rewarded even, whereas positive behavior is disparaged. This has been the case for a long time where soldiers who would try to stop or hold their peers accountable for murders, tortures, and rapes were often turned into pariahs and be given death threats and the like.

With that said, I do wholeheartedly agree with everything else that you have said. You raise some really good questions.