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This is it for me for mobile Reddit. I also cancelled my Gold subscription, and likely will step down as mod for a tiny sub i mod, not gonna give them any more free work. And if (when!) they remove Old Reddit i'll leave the site for good. Too bad Lemmy is still in very early stages (very similar to Reddit in it's first years in fact), or it'd be THE alternative. Hopefully many people will join in.
Lemmy is only one platform on the Fediverse which is enormous.
You're technically correct, but go to any of the various "This is the Fediverse", "Join Fediverse" and the like, and many, many times you won't even see them acknowledge the existence of Lemmy, happened to me when i decided to jump in last month. Compare amounts of people, Mastodon instances can number in the thousands while the best you get here is dozens, maybe low hundreds. Lemmy is tiny, and it's focus on communities isolates it further from the rest of the Fediverse, the federation doesn't help in the slightest, open Lemmy and all you see is the same dozen posts for days, you don't see on Lemmy posts from the rest of Fediverse because they just don't apply. This is fine, lemme emphasize, but it's early stages and it's undeniable.
@jherazob @admin There's also a tinier project called kbin. It's still in a beta, but it seems quite promising. Here's how their seemingly flagship instance looks like.
sure seems to integrate better with the rest of group platforms on the 'verse, including Friendica Forums, Gup.pe groups, and Lemmy Communities, in addition to their own version of subreddits, that they call magazines for some reason.
@n7gifmdn Yea, seems pretty awesome thought.
Points taken.
Plus maybe it's just me but when I open lemmy, I don't want to see the rest of the fediverse. Lemmy serves a very different purpose from mastodon or plemora.
It's one thing I never understood about the fediverse. These platforms are separate on the normal web for a reason.
@morrowind Yep. I really like the fact that even though the fediverse can interact with lemmy content, the default view within lemmy is still only groups content and not the whole fediverse
@noodlejetski @jherazob @admin
Have you tried /kbin ?
Is it really? I mean, compared to reddit, how many users does the Fediverse have?
Personally, I don't give a fuck about Reddit. Approximately, 3 million and climbing on the Fediverse. It's not about quantity but quality.
unique users is obviously unclear, but as of writing almost 8 million accounts
Actually more than I would have guessed. Still not "enormous" by any reasonable definition. I don't think the Fediverse as a whole is ever going to leave the tiny niche if currently occupies without acknowledging said niche, and it really needs to get past the niche to replace reddit as the "front page(s) of the internet".
Lemmy has the potential to grow even faster than Reddit. I mean, the potential, not that it will (although I hope so).
I'm of mixed mind on this. I'm not sure we've really figured out how to scale beehaw or if it even can be scaled. I can't imagine a smaller community like this actually adhering to it's principles at a size of even 1/1000th of Reddit.
While I greatly appreciate the influx of users and hope it helps to sustain this environment with lots of wonderful content, I also worry about decisions we may need to make in the future to ensure it stays a nice place. The more attention and the more mainstream it becomes, the more difficult it becomes to keep things civil. People like to misbehave on the Internet and part of the reason places like this work is people being upset with this paradigm, but that can only be successful if it's mostly people upset with the paradigm registering and not the people who are out there being mean to others.
I agree that, past a certain size, it becomes harder to enforce behaviour. However that's where I think that the nature of the Fediverse helps a lot.
As long as maintenance of the userbase is done diligently, and no Eternal September changes the nature of the core userbase, people who want a rougher community will eventually migrate to their own instances. It's hard to do this in Reddit, but perfectly doable in the Fediverse, and the migrating users don't even need to break ties with Beehaw.
So in effect, the problem (people wanting to behave in a way not allowed by the community) solves itself. I think that this gives Beehaw way more room to scale than it looks like.
u should get some reddit power mods on board lol