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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Integrating the battery saves a small amount of space and weight. That makes the phone very slightly thinner and lighter, which is what most people seem to prefer. Same with not having expandable memory. IMO it's a bad tradeoff, but I still miss physical keyboards.

[–] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The stupid part is that they will buy phone cause it's 0.1mm thinner and then slap on 3mm phone case on top.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Don’t think anyone has actually bought a phone for the thinness since like, 2016, but also a case isn’t a decision of thinness. The people who use their phones without a case continue to do so because they like the look and feel, and those who use a case for protection will want it regardless of whether the phone is 5mm thicker.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I've got an Otterbox Defender on my phone. It's the only reason my phone is still operational.

I still want a user-replaceable battery though.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I never met anyone that said they wanted a thinner lighter phone.

I've met tons of people that would take a half inch thick brick of a phone if it came with an equally big battery that could last days between charges.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Go on Amazon and search for a "outdoors phone". I have one that is about that size and weighs a lot, but I can go a week between charges easily. I can play games with my headphones for 8 hours straight without needing to charge.

But ... The battery is not replaceable.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I want a thinner and lighter phone!

But you haven't met me.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's genuinely one of the things people look for; iPhones are incredibly dense designs, in a very sleek, smooth, light package, and people love them. A very basic phone case and a screen saver adds nearly half the OE thickness of the phone to the package, and look how many people forgo those, even on a phone that's $1500. If I added that much thickness to a phone that started out at .5" thick, it would end up feeling like I was carrying a brick on my pocket all the time.

I would still take the brick with replaceable battery though.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

apple idiots buy whatever apple tells them to because they care more about the artificial status symbol of having the latest apple logo'd bullshit than they care about having a good or decent product.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. I'm an Android user, and have been for about a decade, but Apple makes good products. I think that Apple is overpriced, I don't like their walled garden, but they're still good. My wife had an iPhone 8 up until this year, and I'd gone through multiple Samsung and other phones in the same time period that all died due to hardware failures.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wasnt saying you were, I was saying in general.

Samsungs phones fell off a cliff after the 9, imho. I would never buy another samsung.

Apple artificially destroying batteries to make you buy more phones, sooner, should have been the nail in the coffin of that company if people actually cared about the products and not the artificial status symbol.

[–] Macropolis@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could plug one into the USBC port.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's not neatly as portable as the old Crackberries that had slide-out keyboards.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh I feel you. I loved them too. The only reason why I had to switch (back when a physical keyboard was still kind of an option) was because I started to type in cyrillic too, and - especially as a newbie who isn't familiar with the keyboard's layout - a digital one was much easier to use. But I still hate that feeling of typing on my screen.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Am not convinced there are many who honestly enjoy typing on screen. It's never great, just passable.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely. I think the only people that like them are the people designing the phones, because they don't have to worry about smaller/lighter/more durable keyboards.

I had to give up my final phone with a physical keyboard because some of the keys stopped working, and there was no way to get an identical replacement anymore.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I so wanted Blackberry Key3 to come out and was holding out for that one, then they canceled their phone production entirely. Old Blackberry Passport was such a good design for my use case. Sadly outdated software meant I was unable to use it as my daily driver.