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I absolutely LOVE how you're shitting on Americam imperialism here, when Russia is doing the exact same thing you're complaining about? You know, the whole invading Ukraine to steal their resources and destabilize it politically thing, or is it OK when the country is next door instead? ๐
Russia should continue to be glad they aren't actually fighting NATO yet, they can hardly beat the Ukrainians as it is.
The invasion of Ukraine cannot be compared in terms of war crimes to what the US did in West Asia, have you heard of Operation Awe and Shock? I'm not saying that what Russia is doing is perfectly fine, my point is that you all people sound crickets when it's about a non-white, non-imperial core country, you give a fuck, you are just paying attention to this because Russia has been made enemy number 1 of the West during the last hundred years. You don't give a fuck about Hawai'ian independence, you don't give a fuck about a Puerto Rican independence, you don't give a fuck about any of the West colonies. When you all people really get a grip of reality and can manage to evaluate everything as equals then a real conversation can happen around the current events in Ukraine, otherwise it's just you all excusing about the West atrocities and saying it's not so bad but making a lot of noise when this shit happens.
How are they not fighting NATO if NATO trains soldiers, provides weapons, provides support, money and basically everything? What does fighting NATO looks like, then? Because as far as I know it's the same. What's the difference, the US goes thermonuclear and eliminates the human race with nukes, is that fighting NATO enough?
Only a fraction of the currently active troops in Ukraine have received training from NATO, only a fraction are armed with NATO weaponry, and Ukraine hasn't received significant amounts of aircraft, which is the linchpin to the entire NATO offensive strategy.
So if Russia is struggling to make the progress it has against a force that ISN'T fully armed with NATO weaponry and strategy, it stands to reason they would fare even worse against NATO itself.
The rest of your post is lot of words without much of a point. So Russia should be allowed to invade Ukraine and commit atrocities against their people because... the United States did bad things in the past? But if its awful when the United States does it why would you support Russia also doing it?
No, I want to see you on some post that doesn't include the West, you give a fuck about the rest of the world, you just pinpoint whatever your nazi bourgeois overlords tell you to, the rest of us can die and you won't blink an eye.
Don't talk to this asshole. They don't argue in good faith and love to shit on the west with their whataboutism. This isn't the first post I've seen this joker in.
People like this are rarely worth engaging with but I believe there's value to the community when their statements are publically challenged.
But yeah you're right, I'm definitely not changing any minds here ha
This is literally the first post I've made on this platform haha.'nazi bourgeois overlords' is a meaningless word-salad, and by this point you're really reaching.
You don't care about the rest of the world, you would laugh watching Africans and East Asian's die, all you do is swallow the propaganda your fascist elitist masters tell you to.
Didn't that sound crazy? How that sounded to you, is how what you said sounded to me.
America is better at war. Shock and Awe was effective. War is an atrocity, to be good at it you have to be willing to commit atrocities. If Russia had started out with a similar strategy Ukraine might be an occupied territory of Russia right now. I don't support any invasion, but if you decide to invade a country you need to hit them hard before they have time to organize their defense. I think Russia had some weird Idea that Ukraians were going to welcome them as liberators. I think this is because the Russian government began to believe their own propaganda. Putin surrounds himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear.