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[–] blender2142@lemmynsfw.com 87 points 9 months ago (4 children)

By using the service, you agree to the TOS. What you are "rejecting all" to are cookies. Still scummy behavior tho

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Considering many internet providers now have bandwidth caps, it is my policy do not allow arbitrary data on my network (aka ads). It's also my policy that my policy supersedes any arbitrary terms of services. And that any platform accessing my network henceforth retroactively accepts my policy and terms of service.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could send that in a HTTP header, with the stipulation that the server responding would accept the terms.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

“By responding to this request, you implicitly accept my terms and conditions.”

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ignorance of the law is only a defense if you're a police officer

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are a contract. Courts have increasingly sided with corporations on making consent be implied and also allowing corporations to pretty much change the terms and conditions at will.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

in the context of what yt enforce on their shit, yes they are law

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] superbirra@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

in the context of what yt enforce on their shit, yes.

[–] tyler@programming.dev -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You can’t agree to it until you visit the website and actually read it. Your logic doesn’t really follow

Edit: for those downvoting here’s an article from the EFF agreeing with me. https://www.eff.org/wp/clicks-bind-ways-users-agree-online-terms-service

However, courts generally do not require that you actually have read the terms, but just that you had reasonable notice and an opportunity to read them.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nope. Not how it works. You don't have to agree to anything. You don't have to read anything. The provider has to inform you, which they do even if you block it.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Edit: here’s the EFF agreeing with me. If you don’t read any of the below then you should still read this. https://www.eff.org/wp/clicks-bind-ways-users-agree-online-terms-service

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That’s literally absolutely unequivocally incorrect. I have no clue why you think that but even a cursory glance at Wikipedia would have shown you you’re incorrect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_service

If you want more information you can go ahead and read up on GDPR or one of the numerous other laws around the world stating exactly the opposite of what you’re saying.

Here’s some links for you.

https://helpcenter.yola.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011549640-Creating-GDPR-compliant-Terms-and-Conditions-with-a-sample-#h_01HE82BYF85W8SHFW3BFDZQ7DY

https://www.contractscounsel.com/t/us/terms-of-service

And if you had actually watched the Louis Rossman video someone linked below, he literally discusses these things.

I’m sorry but you’re just completely wrong.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

I don't believe you're correct about this. Corporations love your take here, though. They absolutely have entire teams of lawyers that push this narrative as best they can.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The law still allows me to control what appears on my device