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We give our kids those horizon uht whole milk drinks like everyday. It's milk which is basically sugar, fat, protein, and a few other things. Is this going to cause a similar issue? We also have the siggi yogurt...
Nutritional values are nutritional values, weight is gained by regularly ingesting too many calories, no matter the source. There's benefits to milk but if your kids have a healthy diet in general they shouldn't need to drink it.
You don't need to eat anything if you have an otherwise healthy diet
But eventually you need to eat something to have that healthy diet. Milk contains a lot of good stuff. Bodybuilders usually drink whey protein shakes that have protein made from milk. The protein in milk is some of the best you can get for muscle gain
Body builders are also burning mutiple times the average daily caloric load and specifically need extra protein. Average people should not eat like body builders or peofessional athletes. (Average people should also, like, walk around more. Maybe climb a bit. Use your body)
That's not true, each set burns like 2 calories on average. If you look at intermediate lifting routines, it's about 40-100 total sets a week.
Sure, some bodybuilders will bulk and cut, but that's hardly necessary since it's proven you gain muscle on maintenance calories if you lift
Hafthor was eating approximately 10k Calories a day at his peak. I'm not talking about a three-days-a-week gym bro I mean people whose entire life is physical strain.
He's not a bodybuilder
More muscle mass means more calories required even at rest. You're clearly out of depth right now and should just stop.
By literally single digits of calories
When I was 191 lbs at 15.8% bf I had a maintenance of a whopping 2700 calories
Hardly double of a regular person
Still 500 or 23% more than average for a man... The difference is a single digit... That's in the third position of the number, but still, it's just one digit!
How hard is that to understand?
I did a TDEE calculation based on 3 times a week exercise and I got 2685 for a man of my weight
Basically having more muscle is a rounding error, some fat guy may be burning only 50 calories less
It's not "some of the best", it's just easy to extract and to get in high concentration in powder form. Milk contains a lot of good stuff but the same thing can be said about many things, milk isn't special. With a varied diet there's no reason why we still keep ourselves addicted to it, it's not 1927 anymore, we've got access to clean water and a variety of food that would have made emperors envious.
Milk and dairies are the number one source of saturated fats in the American diet and they're linked to many types of cancer. Lactose is sugar that's hard to digest, there's a good reason why we become intolerant to it very quickly if we stop drinking milk and it also increases our risk of getting diabetes. Let's not even talk about the quality of the US milk and all the shit there's in it. Add to all of that the environmental impact of the dairy industry and it's pretty fucking hard to defend the consumption of milk.
Hell, no other mammal drinks milk past their weaning and no other mammal drinks the milk of other species, maybe we weren't meant to either, right?
We're the only mammals capable of keeping milk-producing animals and collecting that milk. It's a lot of work. No other animal plants wheat or maintains berry patches eithet. Kind of a crap argument. We aren't "meant" to do anything in particular, but we're adapted to surviving on a huge range of food.
The dairy industry is a ridiculous monster but keep the criticism empirical.
What prevents cows from drinking the milk of other cows that are still producing? Heck, what keeps them from drinking the milk of their mother long term? If they continue to drink it the mother will continue producing it, if they have one calf a year they'll be producing pretty much non stop. We milk them longer than they would before their calves would have stopped drinking their milk, why then do they stop at a certain age?
65% of the human population has lactose intolerance. How does that fit with us being meant to continue drinking milk just because we're able to?
We started drinking milk about 9000 years ago, that's about 3% of our history as homo sapiens, these days we don't need it, we've got good water and get our nutrients elsewhere.
I don't know, why does a human baby stop breastfeeding?
You mean 35% of the population is able-bodied. Ha.
I don't know what this statistic is supposed to mean. Something like 60% of people have herpes. Does this mean we're meant to get herpes?
I believe the coccyx is proof we were meant to have tails. 😤 Look what nature has stolen from us.
The mother, usually. But then eventually it comes down to a matter of logistics.
It has some of the highest bioavailability, full of branched chain amino acids, spikes your amino acids in the blood super fast
Name anything better
Meat, eggs, soy, quinoa, buckwheat.
But hey, trust gym bros and the dairy lobby before actual nutritionists 👍
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5568273/
"We conclude that the claim that consumption of dietary BCAAs stimulates muscle protein synthesis or produces an anabolic response in human subjects is unwarranted."
Oh and just a reminder, it was an answer to someone asking for their children and I'm pretty sure they don't do bodybuilding, neither does the vast majority of the population that drinks milk instead of water.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905294/
Nope, whey and egg are still the best
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905294/table/table001/?report=objectonly
And the point is protein is necessary for children's nutrition, while juice is not
It's easy to consume too many calories with liquids. I'm sure it's fine I'm moderation, especially so if your kids love active lifestyles.
Age matters. Milk is not juice.
Please follow professional advice and not people on Internet.
https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2018/0815/p227.html
Thanks, I was asking to see what others thought. It's not like I can really control what kids want to eat. 😂
Calories in calories out
It's not rocket science if you put in extra fuel the body will eventually turn that extra fuel into fat.
Still, since it's children we're talking about it's a bit more touchy with their growth and everything and creating dietary anxiety isn't a good idea. Keep them active, give them a variety of food and they should grow up healthy.
Have conversations like would you like cake or soda. Teach them to not over eat sugar dense foods and to limit themselvesnon those types of foods. Everything in moderation.