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Love the quality, cogent rebuttal. Excellent quality.
Glad to see you also don't know what a gish gallop is. That's fun.
Here's an answer for you. It's when someone presents a large number of bad arguments which take little effort to present but a relatively long time to rebut. I didn't do anything remotely like that. I presented precisely one argument, explained in great detail.
This is what I hate about lemmy. I don't know whether you're right or not. Everyone else obviously thinks you are wrong, but instead of merely correcting what you got wrong, they're treating you like you're arguing in bad faith. Being wrong and arguing in bad faith are two different things, and I see no evidence you're doing the latter. Lemmings complain that this site is full of memes instead of discussion, but they need look no further than this thread to see why discussion is not happening here.
They're wrong, but I don't think they're arguing in bad faith. What they're wrong about is that article 3 of the 14th is self-executing and doesn't require a trial or conviction. This is because it was intended to bar former Confederate officers from holding federal office and trying and convicting all of them would have been a logistical impossibility.
As for "aid and comfort", it's the same thing? He's obviously guilty as fuck. The problem is that under rule of law, it has to be a court that decides that officially, and not a politician.
A court in Colorado has decided that.
That was the State Supreme Court, which is, like the US Supreme Court, not a trial court.
From another non-American non-lawyer to you, here's my understanding:
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1213961050/colorado-judge-finds-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot
A district judge in Colorado was the one who ruled that Trump engaged in insurrection, the unclear part to this judge was whether the 14th amendment section 3 applies to the Presidency.
The Colorado supreme court decision does not materially change the facts of the case on whether Trump engaged in insurrection.
For your convenience, I copied the important parts from Colorado Supreme Court's ruling:
Ruling
¶5 The sum of these parts is this: President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President under Section Three; because he is disqualified, it would be a wrongful act under the Election Code for the Secretary to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot.