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I don't know why I even bother opening the settings app

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Because Microsoft went full Apple and adopted the "we know what's good for you so don't defy our decisions" philosophy of UX design.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The difference is that Apple usually executes it well, and Microsoft doesn't.

You set a Windows PC to dark mode, half of the system is still bright white. Apple wouldn't dream of doing that shit.

You start searching in the start menu, it's slow, gives you different results each day, misses a bunch of stuff, and tries to send you to Bing. Apple wouldn't dream of doing that shit.

Microsoft comes up with a new UX, but it's only a thin veneer, most of the system doesn't even use it and instead uses Win7 or earlier menus. Apple wouldn't dream of doing that shit.

For all their flaws (and believe me I know they have many. I don't intend to ever own an Apple product), Apple actually gives a shit about having a polished and consistent UX.

They wouldn't have a dark mode that still leaves half the system white, they wouldn't have 20+ year old UI cruft, etc.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The issue is that Apple had that mentality from the start. Microsoft tried to Frankenstein it in after the OS had already matured under a different UX philosophy, not only that, they also didn't commit all the way to changing the philosophy since they still wanted legacy support. They basically ended up with the drawbacks of both philosophies and very little of the benefits of either.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what Apple did but they murdered System Preferences and made us all watch as they pretended the mutilated corpse with a name tag on still dripping with middle manager cum is better.

[–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no bro just go into terminal and type out this arcane command with 20 options fr fr . easy! (and I use linux on the regular lol)

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

Slightly better than editing some plist file

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's not that because Microsoft is changing their own UI. IMO this is the typical corporate climber problem all corporations have. No one gets promotions maintaining software. So you get designers changing stuff for the sake of change so it can go on their resume.

[–] lupercalia@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They went full WEF

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As much as I hate apple, at least apple also caters to power users somewhat. Windows became so, so dumb.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A a Windows and at some points a Mac admin, all I gotta say to that is lol, no.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you say mate. There's a reason developers who don't Linux use macs and not windows.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Because it's based off of BSD and uses very similar tools to Linux, and because of brainwashing of the Apple cult I guess.

Overall, OSX is a piece of shit OS that is shit to work on. I lasted a year before I just gave it back and got a Windows machine, most unintuitive frustrating OS I've ever used. Sure the hardware can seem nice (if it doesn't break or if you don't need anything repaired or replaced) but OSX is trash. If you want to use something, use Linux, there are tons of good distros and all of them cater to the power user.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then why don't you use Linux? Going from Mac back to Windows is absolutely pathetic.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Because I like Windows, and calling it "pathetic" is like saying OSX is for power users. Lol, just, lol.

I've been in the industry for 18 years, I went from an MS Systems Engineer building and managing MS infrastructure for all size companies and enterprises. I've been an AWS Cloud Support engineer working mainly on Linux and AWS, I've been a devops engineer building and maintaining on prem build systems and web server farms (these used IIS and everything was MS) for a company with insane uptime requirements, I've also done similar on AWS with K8s and a whole bunch of other stuff. I'm now a Systems Engineer in a build team for a big company and my primary responsibility is to build and manage the OSX infra we use. During that time I've had enough experience of trying to deal with OSX and all it's BS, which included using a MacBook for a year, that I can say unequivocally that Apple is a shitty company with shitty practices, and Linux can be a pain in the ass to fix when things break in strange ways. But you know what I love about Windows? It just works, I rarely have any issues. If I need Linux, I use WSL or start a VM in the cloud or my machine. I can run pretty much everything I need without issues and I'm a master with PowerShell so can automate anything I need to do on my own PC.

But you know what? You're completely right, my career is a failure and I'm pathetic because I use Windows. I should go kms now.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I work on OSX build machines every day and the amount of time I have to waste fiddling to get the simplest shit to work is insane. Fuck I hate it so much with every fiber of my body. I can't even use any cli utils to get disk or network stats because of their dumb security BS, which you can't disable because it's cloud hosted.