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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then no, venue security is not the same as TSA. Stop moving your goalposts. It's one or the other: either degree matters and venue security isn't the same as TSA so uniqueness of a scenario isn't important, or degree doesn't matter and every traditionally tipped worker is the same so it's not unique in the first place. Either way your position crumbles.

And for at least the third time: your entire argument is pointless and irrelevant in the first place. Things are as they are. Saying "It shouldn't be this way!" doesn't change how it is.

Restaurants that eliminate tipping will go out of business in competition with those that don't. This is not a problem that can be solved by individual restaurant initiative. Stomping your feet and shouting that you shouldn't have to and it's not fair, without offering any actual effective course of action, is just embarrassing.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Answer the question then.

Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Name one even prime number other than 2. Name one flying mammal other than a bat. Name one Western country that doesn't use metric other than the US.

What point are you trying to make? This isn't some gotcha, you are making pointless statements. 2 is still prime, bats still fly, the US still doesn't use metric. Calling out a situation as being unique doesn't make it stop being what it is.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Answer the question then.

Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

Unless you’re a bot or child, in which case I understand your deficiency in understanding the question.

https://slrpnk.net/post/5625534

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You keep saying the same thing like it's relevant.

You still haven't named another even prime, flying mammal, or Western nation that doesn't use metric.

Let's just focus on the last one: why should I have to learn yards and Fahrenheit and gallons when EVERY other Western country uses metric? No other Western country forces their children to learn that system, to the point you can't understand standard signs and measures without it.

It's the same argument.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Answer the question then.

Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you a child or a bot?

Answer the question.

Name one other western country (that isn’t the United States) where the residents have to use the imperial system. To the point where, without the imperial system, the resident would NOT be able to understand posted signs and measures.

When you answer my question, you'll have the answer to yours. Asking the same question again, or refusing to answer mine, will be proof that you can't read, or can't think, or both.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Already answered yours.

Night club.

Your turn buddy.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nope, wrong. We established that's not the same: if other tipped positions don't count the same as servers, then night club security doesn't count the same as TSA. That's why we moved to a more direct question:

Name one other western country (that isn’t the United States) where the residents have to use the imperial system. To the point where, without the imperial system, the resident would NOT be able to understand posted signs and measures.

I'm assuming you're a child, because bots are better than this now. Unless you're one of those old 90s era bots. Either way, not worth consideration.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And since you can’t Google, Liberia

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

Since you can't read

western

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not a bot.

Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only (old and outdated) bots have reading comprehension this bad and comment the same irrelevant points repeatedly, after being shown repeatedly that those points are irrelevant.

It would be profoundly embarrassing for you if you aren't a bot, you would have to be literally mentally disabled to continue as you have. To preserve my faith in the baseline intellectual capabilities of humanity, I will continue to make the graceful assumption that no-one could be so mentally deficient.

Bad bot.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not a bot.

Answer the question. Oh right, you can’t. If you could have, you would have already. You got pissy when I answered one of yours so you moved the goalposts, dug your heels in, and are now being obstinate.

The standard playbook of the republicans; Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.

I’m done wasting my time on you. Enjoy being wrong.

https://www.dailydot.com/news/25-percent-tip-at-grocery-checkout/

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Bad bot

I answered yours, you moved the goalposts, so I shifted my question to match your goalposts.

The standard playbook of Republicans: cheat the working class out of every dime possible. Trump doesn't pay his contractors after they do work for him either.