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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If OpenAI is right (I think they are) one of two things need to happen.

  1. All AI should be open source and non-profit
  2. Copywrite law needs to be abolished

For number 1. Good luck for all the reasons we all know. Capitalism must continue to operate.

For number 1. Good luck because those in power are mostly there off the backs of those before them (see Disney, Apple, Microsoft, etc)

Anyways, fun to watch play out.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There's a third solution you're overlooking.

3: OpenAI (or other) wins a judgment that AI content is not inherently a violation of copyright regardless of materials it is trained upon.

[–] Hedgehawk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not really about the AI content being a violation or not though is it. It's more about a corporation using copyrighted content without permission to make their product better.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it's not a violation of copyright then this is a non-issue. You don't need permission to read books.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

AI does not “read books” and it’s completely disingenuous to compare them to humans that way.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's certainly an opinion you have

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Backed by technical facts.

AIs fundamentally process information differently than humans. That’s not up for debate.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes this is an argument in my favor, you just don't understand AI/LLMs enough to know why.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I could say the same about you, considering I’ve watched you peddle false information for months about this subject.

AI learns differently than humans. That isn’t a fact up for debate. That’s one of the few objective truths around this industry.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago

Similarly I don't read "War and Peace" and then use that to go and write "Peace and War"

[–] the_ocs@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no open source without copyright, only public domain

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If all is public domain, all is open source

[–] the_ocs@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Open source also includes viral licenses like the GPL. Without copyright, the GPL is not enforceable.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

It doesn't have to be. One leak and the code is open for all

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

It’s why AI ultimately will be the death of capitalism, or the dawn of the endless war against the capitalists (literally, and physically).

AI will ultimately replace most jobs, capitalism can’t work without wage slave, or antique capitalism aka feudalism… so yeah. Gonna need to move towards UBI and more utopian, or just a miserable endless bloody awful war against the capitalists.