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Bitwarden can do everything Authy can afaik
It is a bad idea to have your password manager and 2FA be the same app though. You want to spread it around so one attack can't break your logins.
You aren't wrong and I should rethink that. But BW is so damn handy.
While that is true, the risk of someone brute forcing into an account of mine on the login side than on mine. That's what I use 2FA against. If they managed to break into my vault, they'd have broken into my Mailserver and whatnot, so....
Good point.
Is it realistic (i.e. is it secure enough) to self-host 2 Bitwarden, one for passwords, one for authentication?
Or would splitting that between 2 Bitwarden logins work?
I just throwing stuff at the wall, I haven't thought either of these through yet.
BitWarden can generate 2FA tokens? I don't see any option for that on Android
Vaultwarden can. Self hosting isn't for everyone though.
Given that the comment was a demand for self hostable Authy, I think they might wanna :P
Ha. Apparently two comments worth of context is too much for me to handle.
Lol.
Welcome to the club, mate! 🤣
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Need to pay for a subscription for TOTP. It’s like $10/year for the personal plan.
Which is damn near cheap compared to other companies. I personally use dashlane (I know I know I should self host but I don't trust myself for something as important as passwords) and that's $60 for their premium package.
I love my bitwarden but is it less secure to have all your eggs in one basket? That's the main reason I've been using separate apps so far.
It may very well be, especially if the basket your eggs are in is full of holes. I always figure, as long as it isn’t a pad of paper on a desk, or a company that regularly makes headlines due to security breaches, I should be okay.
Cool, I might check it out then. I knew I'd have to move off of authy eventually.
2FA need a active subscription i believe https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/
Or you self host
I self-host, but I still pay for their premium because it's a damn good product I want to see kept maintained for years to come.
I mean, cmon, it's $10. Almost cheaper than a banana.
Lucille?
Glad someone caught that.
That's a good point.
I'm not paying currently because I don't use their online service.
Adding them to my "Annual Donate to Software I find Useful" list, that I just started this year.
I despise subscriptions. For apps that have a hosted portion, I understand them, but I'd still rather pay annually.
It's $10 annually in case you thought it was monthly. I'd imagine if you went in and subbed, then cancelled the sub, you'd still have your year you paid for. But yah, I'd like an option to not auto-renew, even though I do.
Oh, I saw that it was $10 for the year. That's crazy cheap.
I just want my stuff on my stuff, after the Lastpass debacle last year - it was the last straw to push me into self hosting everything.
True!
Thanks.
Yeah, I already run Vaultwarden. But like others I don't really want to combine my tokens and passwords.