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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 91 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I swear everytime Twitch updates their policies for clarity, they just get even more confusing.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I've never used Twitch and never tried to keep up to date with anything related, but news about it are hard to miss nowadays. And from just my barely surface level exposure to it, it's so weird. It seems like they completely switch every few months or weeks from "we will allow nudity and even take steps to make it a thing on our platform" to "absolutely no nudity and everyone that tries till get banned".

What the fuck is going on?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

It's hard because they want the cut they get of horny donations but they don't want to be a sex site.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

My theory is that they're trying to find the perfect mix of horny gamers shelling out for bits and subs while staying just within the bounds of what advertisers will allow.

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They just got pissed at people using censor bars on themselves to make it look like they were naked (in protest for Twitch backing down on their nudity policy).

Yes, it's a salty move, and yes, they're being assholes about it.

[–] criticalthreshold@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The thots are assholes right?

Because twitch is a gaming platform, not a PG-13 Onlyfans advertisement platform.

Or is it?

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not only Twitch features many games with sexual content, which seem to be fine as long as the publisher is big enough. It also doesn't seem to mind streamers that are only there to chat or draw or do anything else not game related.

So, what's the problem here? If people think it's so bad they can just go watch something else.

I'll never understand this puritan gamer resentment at streamers who dare to rely on sexual appeal over skill or humor or art or any other myriad of ways someone might get an audience.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You start allowing this type of sexual content and the place turns into a porn site. It's what we saw, where you scroll down the more popular streams and it's all sexual content.

Especially on a website with a lot of young people, it just isn't right. Leave that stuff for the cam sites.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Nah. Even before any crackdown, Twitch was still a primarily about streaming games.

Young children shouldn't be in chats with strangers period, but that's not treated as a concern. Nor do people mind if they watch GTA or Mortal Kombat, or slots.

This is not really about concerns over what sort of content children are being exposed to, it's the same old "won't you please think of the children" cheap moral panic of always, The outrage that if a kid sees a booby they are basically defiled forever. Then the kid goes and sees a booby anyway, in some M-rated game that is streamed with no restrictions. You can even find people drawing NSFW art,

Rather than dancing around how much sexual content to allow, in what form, from who, maybe they could simply be thorough with age verification.

On top of that there's some weird gamer outrage that if the main appeal of a streamer is not a game, they are unworthy "manipulative thots". The incel talk you see in this sort of threads is crazy.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Didnt have to scroll down at all.

last time I opened twitch.tv most the suggested streams were women either doing fake toplessness by wearing like a tube top that was just out of frame, or actually fucking naked and hiding it with hands/tape/paper towel tubes/what the fuck over. (And before you even say it, no, twitch is not suggesting shit to me that I watch. I actively click not interested on all of this shit, for weeks, and it STILL made my front page nothing but that shit)

If I want to see that shit, theres a thousand and one porn sites I can easily and quickly see it on.

I'm on twitch to see people play interesting games and be entertaining.

Not to watch some dumb thots try to get 13 year olds to steal their parents credit cards to rack up only fans sales.

[–] criticalthreshold@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Humor and art are vastly different than spreading eagle with a black censor bar covering your shit, or drooling and licking a microphone ear to help the incels rub one out.

Please don't insult artists, comedians, or any other talent with comparisons to that.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Just sounds like you don't respect nsfw artist and performers to be honest. Just anybody talking casually on the mic is good enough for a "proper" stream, but if their performance is sexually suggestive you judge it for lacking some shakespearean quality.

Nevermind that it does take effort to look and sound sexy.

C'mon, do you really want to try passing this outrage at sexy streamers as a greater reverence for the arts? As if art is never raunchy or crude? No drawing? No comedy? Get real.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who cares? Twitch should just give a way to hide these kind of streams for users who dont want to see them.

[–] criticalthreshold@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because the platform is a gaming and gamer-social platform.

Nothing wrong with nudity, just find the appropriate platform for it, not a gaming one.

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If Twitch is a gaming platform, why is there a "Pools, workout and beaches" category? 99% of streams there are hot babes in bikinis, with some linking to their OF accounts in their profile. And then there's the fashion show with models in skin tape that most of the time only covers the crotch and nips.

Now, I'm not against streamers showing skin; Twitch can definitely open an "After Dark" section only available to adults and still forbid explicit or simulated sex. But the way all this fiasco took place screams bad management to me.