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Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Modern EVs charge in less than 15 minutes so.. it’s really not longer than a gas stop, at least not in any situation I’ve been in and I own two gas vehicles and an ev. Like I literally get 200+ miles of range in 15 minutes. Your numbers are just way way way off.

And what in the world are you talking about. 1000 to rent a car two times a year? Where the fuck are you renting from?

I’m sorry but you’re just really really really misinformed here. There are plenty of aaa charging services if you get stuck, but you’re not gonna get stuck cuz EVs are good about letting you know if you’re gonna be in trouble.

I don’t really want to spend the time to refute every point in your post, just seriously, go try renting a modem ev (non-American, American EVs are terrible)

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Modern EVs charge in less than 15 minutes so.. it’s really not longer than a gas stop, at least not in any situation I’ve been in and I own two gas vehicles and an ev. Like I literally get 200+ miles of range in 15 minutes. Your numbers are just way way way off.

I'd say the same about yours.

Maybe those binders are correct for you in your EV but not for me with my ICE.

I've never needed 15 minutes to get gas. As long as there's an open pump, if all I'm doing is gassing up, it's 5 minutes, if that.

And I'm getting 400 miles of range for that time.

And I can do that literally anywhere in the entire US. If a town is big enough to have a red light, it'll probably have a gas station within 5 miles.

I like that EVs are a thing, and that they're becoming even more of a thing as time goes on. Someday I'm sure I'll own one too.

But if I need a new car in the next 5 years, I'm not even considering one, and most of the reasons for that are reasons that proponents are acknowledging, even as they're trying to be patronizing and condescending and shaming anyone who points out valid drawbacks.

It's not like people are saying EVs are bad, just that the reality of the situation right now is that, for many, deciding to switch over to one from an ICE will mean, in some ways, changing the ways they live around the limitations and necessities that come with the EV, and that for many, these changes tip the scales away from the EV.

People don't want to accept the changes and added concerns that come with making that switch, and that doesn't make them wrong or stupid or bad.

When EV infrastructure gets to the point where owning, fueling, and servicing one is as cheap, quick, effective, and ubiquitous as owning, fueling, and servicing an ICE vehicle then I'm sure many, many more people will be convinced. Until then, it's less a matter of needing to dispel rumors and more a matter of the technology needing to catch up to the level of ICE.

[–] snowe@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe those binders are correct for you in your EV but not for me with my ICE.

I’ve never needed 15 minutes to get gas. As long as there’s an open pump, if all I’m doing is gassing up, it’s 5 minutes, if that.

on road trips that's all your doing? You're not going in for a bathroom break and to buy snacks? Somehow I highly doubt that and even if you are you are in the minority. There's a reason they're called rest stops out on long stretches of roads, they're not just for gas.

But if I need a new car in the next 5 years, I’m not even considering one, and most of the reasons for that are reasons that proponents are acknowledging, even as they’re trying to be patronizing and condescending and shaming anyone who points out valid drawbacks.

you haven't pointed out any drawbacks, you've just spread a bunch of incorrect FUD.

It’s not like people are saying EVs are bad, just that the reality of the situation right now is that, for many, deciding to switch over to one from an ICE will mean, in some ways, changing the ways they live around the limitations and necessities that come with the EV, and that for many, these changes tip the scales away from the EV.

This is also incorrect, unless you are towing things. Like I said before. This is just a bunch of FUD.

edit: i just reread your initial comment. you literally bring up getting a snack and using the restroom. ahaha you can't even keep your own story straight.

we’re talking going from a 10 minute break to get gas, grab a snack and use the restroom to more like 30 minutes waiting for the car

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

edit: i just reread your initial comment. you literally bring up getting a snack and using the restroom. ahaha you can't even keep your own story straight.

What the fuck are you talking about? I never said that.

Maybe learn to read a username before you cock off.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I only know what people tell me about EVs, I've never had one. You're the first and only person to claim I can charge an EV in 15 minutes. Where can I do that?

The last time I rented a car was in the UK about 2 months ago. It was for exactly 1 week, which is actually a little light for most of my trips in the US, and cost about 1000 GBP before insurance for an automatic (I don't drive stick). In the US, when I've looked up car rentals just now, a fullsize SUV for my road trip coming up, return to the same place, was 1,303.99 before insurance. A Midsize that we'd just squeeze into like my owned Outback was $770 before insurance (on Kyak.com - feel free to point me to better places to search). I'd say that's averaging $1,000.

I'm aware I didn't specify the ICE cars I'm talking about in this post, that was in another one. I'll admit, if I was going to want a Tesla 3 size car (which doesn't work for me for many other reasons), I could rent an ICE for more like $540 before insurance. The reason a Tesla3 size car doesn't work is my road trips are 3-5 people, with luggage for a week or more, plus their hobby large backpacks. We also have a crosstrek and we literally packed it full for 3 people, and the Outback was uncomfortably full with 5 people. So I'd figure I'd need the cargo capacity of a full SUV for 5 and midsize SUV for 3.