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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What are they trying to impeach Biden for right now?

My argument is one person should have the ability to disqualify someone from running for president without being convicted by congress or the court.

I understand it’s an unpopular opinion but this is going to backfire when republicans start going after the democratic nominee for anything they imagine and they control the Secretary of State and state Supreme Court.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

without being convicted by congress or the court.

Elections aren’t run by the federal government, they’re run by the states. Also, Trump is not disqualified for “breaking a law”, he’s being disqualified under the terms of the 14th amendment section 3. He took an oath as president to support the constitution and then engaged in insurrection.

My argument is one person should have the ability to disqualify someone from running for president

Isn’t that what state’s rights is all about?

Do you believe that only certain things should be state’s rights?

Who decides which is which and if it’s the feds that do that would that mean that states have no rights?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you just going to skip over the main part of what I said there?

this is going to backfire when republicans start going after the democratic nominee for anything they imagine and they control the Secretary of State and state Supreme Court.

This is the important part but you’re just going to not address it?

Is it too hard?

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I genuinely cannot tell if you're this obtuse or just trolling for attention so I'll give this one last shot and then I am done with you and your ridiculous statements.

this is going to backfire when republicans start going after the democratic nominee for anything they imagine and they control the Secretary of State and state Supreme Court.

This argument is "don't uphold the laws and rules of the US government because some group might retaliate". Do you honestly not understand how absolutely bonkers that is? Not to mention that it doesn't matter if these individual states uphold the 14th amendment on this issue because as your own question earlier pointed out, they are already engaging in retaliatory behavior with the impeachment against Biden, which is going nowhere.

What you either don't or are choosing not to understand is that these Republicans who are playing at these games right now are stuck. They cannot attack the Biden presidency and the Democratic Party within the same system of laws and rules of government because of existing checks and balances. They cannot completely subvert it because then it removes any legitimacy of the laws and system of government which is the one thing they deprive power from.

You also skipped over the part about States rights and elections being run by the individual states, not the federal government. This is the important part but you’re just going to not address it? Is it too hard? Or is it because those questions about States rights from my last comment were lifted word for word from one of your comments elsewhere on Lemmy and you got yourself stuck with contradictions?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You also skipped over the part about States rights and elections being run by the individual states

1965’s Voting Rights Act is a federal law that supersedes that ability of states to control everything and Colorado and Maine’s rulings are both on hold while they hear back from the federal Supreme Court.

So what were you saying with an out of context comment of mine?

[–] ShoeboxKiller@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you stupid? Perhaps you should take a Civics class rather than making idiotic comments here and relying on others to educate you.

SCOTUS is the final authority on interpretation of the US Constitution. That’s why they can take up the case. If it was a clause in a State Constitution the State Supreme Court has final say and SCOTUS can suck on a lemon.

Administrators at the state and local level are responsible for running elections, from maintaining voter registration records to counting ballots. As a result, election laws and procedures vary widely among states and localities. Each state has an agency that manages elections.

Time for your dumbass to pack up your ignorance and move along. Take your asinine argument that the constitution shouldn’t be adhered to because they might get upset about it.

A village somewhere is missing their idiot because you’re too busy making uninformed comments on the internet.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for taking the time to consider what I was saying without getting irrationally angry.

[–] ShoeboxKiller@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

You’re welcome! Best of luck removing your head from your rectum! 👍