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[–] southerntofu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

we say that material conditions must be improved ( ... ) Meanwhile, Anarchists appear to mostly care about maximizing their own personal freedoms akin to liberal ideology.

How do those two approaches contradict one another? Material conditions are poor because we don't have collective autonomy to decide for ourselves how resources should be used. As marxist-leninist revolutions have shown, trading away freedom for a dream of equality only produces new ruling classes (do you think the Red bureaucracy was starving in USSR? no they were just a new privileged caste).

Also anarchist understanding of freedom is not the same as liberal. Liberal freedom is based on conflicting interests (game theory), where anarchist freedom (while it admits there can be conflicts) supposes more freedom for me plus more freedom for you equals more freedom overall (not "my freedom starts where yours stop").

Meanwhile, nobody knows whether this mythical classless and statesless society is possible in practice at the scale humanity exists at today. I’m certainly not aware of any such examples.

What scale are you referring to? Arguably we couldn't have a self-organized planetary government, but why would we need one in the first place? The Commune is the scale on which everything is provably possible and makes the most impact in everyone's lives. The difficulty would reside in transitioning from a production based on destructive (extractive) multinational supply chains to a low-tech production, which might be impossible in a free society.

Large-scale self-organized societies certainly have existed. The zapatistas movement (based on dual power from below) and to some extent the Rojava commune (based on democratic confederalism, not exactly anarchism) are large-scale modern societies moving towards more freedom and equality for all (though nothing is perfect and there's lots to criticize).

I’ll take incremental improvements that solve tangible problems (...) Only people who already have their needs met would scoff at building a state that liberates people from capitalist exploitation and provides them with things like food, housing, and education.

Why would you need a Nation State for food housing and education? We've had those things far longer than Nation States have existed, and many communities/regions have such services without having a Nation State. The zapatistas of Chiapas come to mind for example.

Side-note: i'm definitely not well-off and certainly welcome incremental changes. I'm an anarcho-communist not a post-left anarchist and i don't hold contempt for eg. unions. I just believe we should not stop there because gaining breadcrumbs from our overlords does not lead to liberation/equality. I believe significant changes require a paradigm shift to reach. Case in points: all the bigger wins of the workers movement came at a point when the unions (eg. CGT) had an anarchist goal and praxis of revolutionary syndicalism; since they've turned into reformist central agencies, they've been rendered harmless to the system because the central bureaucracy keeps the more radical cells in check, preventing them from pressuring toward actual change.

My impression is that Anarchists make an implicit assumption that vast majority of people think the way they do.

Not exactly, but we make an explicit assumption that people are not stupid sheep and that given power and information everyone will be capable to make sensible decisions. Because as a society we have many interests in common and without a centralized State to ensure/enforce inequalities, we may realize we have more to win by cooperating.

Simple example: in France we have 3 million empty dwellings (not accounting for secondary housing or empty office/industrial spaces) yet some people live on the streets. Ask anyone whether everyone should be housed or not, they'll tell you sure but they don't know how because the empty dwellings are protected by the police and you risk legal trouble by housing yourself. Now imagine the State doesn't exist, people in a neighborhood would just list empty dwellings and homeless folks, change locks and rehouse everyone: problem solved.