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For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up

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[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A headphone jack, bluetooth sucks, it's convenient but it sucks. It's audio quality is bad, it's latency is bad... it's just all bad.

[–] draxil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I only buy phones with headphone jacks. Don't look forward to not having the option.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Id disagree about bluetooth these days. I have a pair of headset I use daily between my computer and phone. Quality is there, ive done side by side conparisons via 2.4ghz dongle, bluetooth and wired (headset supports all) and I cant hear a difference.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There may not be a difference when you're sitting in front of a computer but Bluetooth quality can go way downhill if you're trying to listen to earbuds while your phone is in your pocket or a bag or similar, especially if you're moving around and/or there's a lot of electronic interference in the area. My city commute is when I really miss wired listening.

[–] TheSaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Bro how shit are your bluetooth headphones?? I’ve had busy city commutes plenty with even cheapoid wireless headphones, iphone 6s, phone in pocket or bag…

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Dude, I live in a faraday cage (lath & plaster with chicken wire embedded in it) and I can walk around my house with little to no issues. Bluetooth 4+ has been rock solid for me. At most my phone disconnects but thats my phones issue. Bluetooth to my PC is perfect an never had any dropouts.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Removable battery and optional modules like the LG G5 : VR headset, DAC, ....

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dude, I miss the LG G5 and the V20. Had some pretty good ideas for the time. I liked how the V20 had a tiny always on display so the main display could power down. Although OLED dont have the power drain problem that LCD have when using AOD

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If bluetooth is so great why don't they use it for concert audio at big shows?

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its for personal use ya dummy. What a stupid line of questoning

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s an excellent line of questioning, and it conveys the point well.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Really? Something that has a range of 30' (9m) and use it for a fucking concert and use the same frequencies as 1000's of atendees?

Bluetooth is a short range low bandwidth (at least vs wifi, 3/4/5g) protocol. Using it for something well outside its capablilites is stupid. Like taking a mini mudding or hammering in nails using a rachet

You hypothetical situation is just pointing out the very well known flaws of the bluetooth protocol. So once again, what a stupid line of questioning

[–] Pluckerpluck@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Latency is still so bad. It doesn't really have to be either. Low latency tech has existed for ages, but nobody seems to care!!

I can't stand it though. How anyone uses Bluetooth headset with, say, the Steam Deck, I have no idea.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluetooth audio can't be bad, it's digital. I would understand it drops packets or is choppy but quality should be given. What can suck is DAC on your headphones, which is the likely culprit.

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where on Earth did you get the idea that being digital means it can't be bad???

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because chances are your device has Bluetooth version 5.2, as all newer phones have and standard has been out for almost a decade now. That version supports both aptX and LC3 codecs. Both of which are significantly higher quality than default inital SBC. In fact aptX has been around since 2009. In 2009, Senheizer released first ever Bluetooth headset with aptX support. Later in 2016 we got aptX HD.

Even Sony's proprietary LDAC codec has been added to Android in version 8 and was officially supported by all Android devices since then. That codec can push 32 bits/96 kHz, which is more than enough quality.

Of course with all digital protocols, like Bluetooth is, received data is the same as transmitted data. If your headset audio quality is lacking, that is on headset, not protocol itself since Bluetooth supports high quality audio for decades now. Only time when Bluetooth will revert back to old codec which was "reasonable quality" as they describe it is if your headset doesn't support better codecs.

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Relying on a codec, which intrinsically plays priority on the basis of specific frequencies, is intrinsic to the limitations of using low-energy radio waves in the UHF range. Codecs are for phone calls and data packets, not full spectrum audio. That doesn't solve the issue, it just slaps a bandage on it so it's less noticeable. If I need a larger spectrum, rather than a patch of bass and treble, Bluetooth continues to fall dramatically and irritatingly short.

I'm glad it works for your purposes, though. I do not mean to come off like a jerk; I just prefer dedicated bands for anything wireless that cover a wider range.