His original post , titled I can't sleep, is some brilliant writing. When we talk about the chilling effect that criticism of Israel creates in industries everywhere (including ours) this is what that looks like.

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[+] Pohl@lemmy.world -22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did we used to conduct war in a way that was safe for civilians? I’m not aware of that history. The war in Gaza looks like war to me. The same way we have been practicing it since we picked up our first sticks in anger. Murdering civilians is a consequence of war. The “good guys” fire bombed Dresden and nuked Japan.

I would give more examples but being honest I am straining to think of other wars in human history that were worth fighting. I am drawing a blank. All of it is pointless slaughter. At least in Gaza you can understand that the Israelis were provoked to war. Can’t say the same for the US in most of our wars.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The circumstances of Gaza seem to warrant them attacking their captors. I don't support any attacks on civillians, but Israel being attacked seems to be a result of a failure on their part to make peaceful change possible.

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

When we start making excuses for violence we abandon any hope of a peaceful world. There is always some slight that requires reprisal which will begat further reprisal. No party in this conflict has the strength to resist. No part has the moral high ground.

Might as well hunt down Churchill and Truman’s descendants and murder them to avenge their grandfathers casting the first stones in this conflict.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Did we used to conduct war in a way that was safe for civilians?

No.

I’m not aware of that history. The war in Gaza looks like war to me.

The Israelis say they are prosecuting a war against Hamas.

How many members of Hamas have been killed? How many remain?