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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sinophobia? Bullshit. Being critical of the Chinese government is not being hateful towards its people. Find something better to be offended over.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

China engages in this kind of “social democracy” all the time just like countries like Norway. But when Norway does it you don’t see people saying “rare Norway win”. I would call having a different standard for China vs a European country sinophobic.

If you’re a left progressive —as most people here on Lemmy seem to be— you probably agree with most of China’s economic policy.

China does sometimes engage in Chinese nationalism in a way that is worthy of criticism; but pretending they are worse than the U.S. in this regard is detached from reality.

The American ruling class has already decided they want war with China. They’re just trying to find a way to justify it to us. We as progressives shouldn’t make it easy for them to justify a war between 2 nuclear powers. Such a war could very well lead to the end of the human race.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

China does sometimes engage in Chinese nationalism in a way that is worthy of criticism; but pretending they are worse than the U.S. in this regard is detached from reality.

Lmao

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Care to elaborate? I assure you genocide and the end of humanity are no laughing matter.

The U.S. is currently supporting a genocide in Palestine/Israel. Before that we spent 2 decades in a war —based on a lie— in which the U.S. killed up to 1 million innocent Iraqis.

We are currently occupying many territories, to whom we deny equal rights/status as states including Guam and Puerto Rico.

Over the last century we constantly supported coups of democratically elected governments mostly in South and Central America. (See the Monroe doctrine).

Not to mention the soft imperialism of the IMF and the world bank.

China deserves criticism for their genocide of the Uyghur Muslims.

There may be further valid criticisms if they invade Taiwan. This could go either way depending on what the Taiwanese people ultimately decide. Right now most Taiwanese want to maintain the status quo. Which is strategic ambiguity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Taiwanese_identity

Edit: I might also add the U.S. is currently undermining the Taiwanese people’s desire for strategic ambiguity. Putting its own geopolitical interests ahead of the desires and well-being of the Taiwanese people.

The U.S. record of nationalist imperialism is worse than China’s.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I'm not going to argue on who is worse, sorry, I'm not educated enough to convince someone. But yeah if you pin the middle east genocide to the us (which you should) it's bad, and I don't know how it compare to the Uyghur's genocide.

Edit: I might also add the U.S. is currently undermining the Taiwanese people’s desire for strategic ambiguity. Putting its own geopolitical interests ahead of the desires and well-being of the Taiwanese people.

Just about that, isn't China doing way more shit on that one ? I know most Taiwanese want the status quo but there are mass campain from China to take Taiwan, and I've never heard of the opposite.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

We're the good guys. It's for the greater good.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sinophobia? Bullshit. Being critical of the Chinese government is not being hateful towards its people. Find something better to be offended over.

Triggered much?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago

Lol, in your imagination.