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So let me get this straight- are you arguing that the smart thing for Ukraine to do is just let Russia take them over?
Your argument is that it was smart to go this route and let thousands be killed only for them to end up (at best) in the same place they would've been had they just negotiated a peaceful resolution in the first place.
Negotiated how? Putin just invaded.
Basically. The smart thing for Hussein was to step down. Even if the US wasn't justified in invading, Hussein was an utter moron and made the situation far worse.
For some reason there is this assumption that "national sovereignty" is morally relevant. It's not states are not subject to moral harm, you have to show that losing national sovereignty results in worse outcomes for the population.
Ukraine would almost certainly be in a better position if they remained Russia-aligned or even joined them. By virtually every metric the Ukrainian population had worse standard of living than Russia, lower birth rates, higher death rates. That was before the war started in 2014, there situation is even worse now. Millions of people fled, and they aren't coming back, Ukraine has a very bleak future even if they do win all their territory. And they still don't have any guarantee of joining the EU or NATO (primarily due to corruption and territorial dispute issues).
You seem to think what is good for Russia is good for Ukraine. I doubt many people who don't worship Putin agree with you.
No. The policies that lead to higher quality of life in Russia would probably not lead to lower quality of life in Ukraine.
In other words we have no reason to believe that aligning with Russia would have resulted in worse outcomes than Ukraine already had. The reason they aligned with the West was primarily to join the EU, which due to corruption and markets they weren't even eligible to join (and still aren't).
This resulted in conflict with Russia and the current circumstances which are far worse than they started with and are essentially irrecoverable at this point (certainly population wise).
In summary it was Ukraine's pursuit of an idealised goal that resulted in negative outcomes. And you are asserting that this is actually a good thing.
Remember when you admitted to me that you were a total moron? Yeah. Your evaluation of every circumstance is super juvenile.
Then I guess it doesn't make you look very good to talk to me. No one's forcing you to waste your time with a moron.
You realise these discussions are public right?
I don't write to address an audience of one, it's to publicly refute vapid nonsense.
In fact I immediately block people who DM because if you don't want a discussion public to convince other people, I'm not going to waste my time convincing a single person.
I see, so you punch down and say rude things to your intellectual inferiors for the benefit of everyone. And what do you think that achieves?
Sir,
I steal this.
Feel free!
Reminds me of my Reddit days, where I used to counter poorly written garbage. Idiots who wrote irrational comments moved on to insults, and so, mods removed all their stupid comments altogether.
I don't think my comments were of the best quality either, but at the end of the day, mods would change the man babies' diaper.
No, I make substantial criticisms and add some insults because I find it funny.
What it achieves is informing people and entertaining me.
I see. And you think people will feel informed by the person who insults mentally handicapped people because he thinks it's funny?
So you are admitting to being mentally handicapped?
Why do you try to drum up your stupidity for sympathy?
You're clearly not mentally handicapped, you're just a lazy mediocre person who sources their opinions from memes.
But next time I run into you you bet I'm going to be asking why a self-aware "mentally handicapped" person, is still repeating tropes that they know are wrong.
You said:
So apparently I am mentally handicapped.
Now please answer my question: Do you think people will feel informed by the person who insults mentally handicapped people because he thinks it’s funny?
I know what game you're trying to play, but you're messing it up and it just looks like your reinforcing your own admissions.
Please answer the question.
You can be mean to mentally handicapped people and still be correct.
Now you're not actually mentally handicapped and it's obvious, you just have moronic opinions and argumentation. So people would not be perceiving someone being mean to a mentally handicapped person.
I thought I was a total moron?
Total morons are mentally handicapped.
So either I'm mentally handicapped or not a total moron.
As for this:
You can also be a racist and be correct. But, ableist or racist, people are less likely to listen to you if you talk about how you mock a minority group for a laugh. I'm sure you realize that, what with being so much smarter than me.
So your argument goes like this
Conclusions
Here's where it fails, and I already warned you about this, calling someone "a total moron" is not a claim of mental handicap and hasn't been for 60+ years it is a long deprecated medical term that is exclusively used as an insult towards the mentally competent.
So premise one is actually false, everyone recognizes that premise 1 is false therefore premise 3 is also false. And neither of the conclusions you are trying to assert are correct.
"with being so much smarter than me"
Clearly.
Sorry, I'm too much of a total moron to understand any of that. But I'm sure if you tell another "joke" at my expense, people will find what you say illuminating.
They sure will.
And I'm sure you have evidence to back that up. Because you wouldn't expect a total moron like me to just accept whatever you say as true, would you?
I'll just write it in an image macro format, it's already been established that that is your primary source of information and you have yet to refute it.
You're right. I have yet to refute that I am a total moron. Why should I stop an ableist from being ableist?