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When pressing the power button makes you powerless (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Squorlple@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I’m a Mac user and let me tell you, it could easily be an osx device. Those friggin updates take forever, and can be forced on you with no warning.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mac updates are weirdly slow.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Full Mac updates not only usually update the entirety of the system and then run an SIP check, but often are firmware updates for the hardware, that’s why they now have a separate setup for quick security updates, which often happen in the background, without a full update required: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102657

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Thanks! I suspected they were doing something under the hood but they are not as overtly transparent in this process.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good info, thanks.

Any idea why it takes so long to install the OS from a fast USB drive (around 45 minutes)? The same drive installs win10 in under 5 minutes.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Good question. Honestly I’m not sure. Windows installs wipe an NTFS partition and then dump the filesystem there, bootloader is installed and OS boots, job done. My only guess would be that the Mac installer individually hashes every file for security and verifies on write. While ensuring a perfect install and secure OS, it also leads to wildly long install times.

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

I think you've got a setting wrong. I've got mine set to download only. So it just downloads the update in the background and notifies me. I have even left that notification sitting there for months before without it forcing or nagging me.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can turn off automatic updates, but it will still give you a notification when there is one so you can make it update at night.

Also, OS X? Is the OS 10.X or you're just referring to it as OS X. Because in newer macOS versions, I can confirm the automatic updates do it at night when you're not using the computer.

[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah sorry, just meant MacOS! It’s a work computer so I think the IT guys kind of force it sometimes.