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Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap (www.itpro.com)

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Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap::As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

TPM 2.0 will be over 10 years old at that point, I'm pretty sure most of the hardware they're talking about will have been retired by then no matter the support for Windows 10.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 11 months ago

It might be 10 years old, but it's not widely deployed until a few years ago, just like how Wayland is 15 years old but only recently starting to see widespread use.

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I built a $1500 pc 6 years ago that doesn’t have a tpm. One gpu upgrade and this thing still does everything I want it for, including running modern games and VR with entirely acceptable performance. When windows 10 stops getting security updates, I’m just going to install arch on it.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was on everything Intel starting in October 2017 (8th gen) and a year later it started on AMD's consumer grade hardware with full integration in 2019 (3000 series)...

So 11 years after it started existing W10 stops receiving free updates, 10 years after the tech was fully integrated W10 stops receiving free and paid updates... And that's not taking into consideration that W11 can still be installed on unsupported hardware...

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I must have missed the cutoff by a couple of months. But here’s the thing: that cpu is still more than enough to drive 60fps on all the games I play, which includes typically demanding categories like fps, while running discord and YouTube and recording software. So the fact that Microsoft decided to fuck me over feels bad. TPM is garbage design from the hardware up, but I know to run secure workloads in secure places already.

The right thing to do should have been to force oem-licensed win11 to have TPM, and allowed retail versions to install with a pop up about security features which won’t be supported without it. Fuck Microsoft for not doing this obvious, simple thing.